Ameriflight add on APC?
#21
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Go ahead and look up year 2 FO pay at every major/legacy and get back to me. Not to mention every year they contribute 16% to your 401k without you putting in a single dime. So your 90-100k sounds good today, but over the course of a career you're losing millions.
Not saying EMS isn't a good job. But if 100k is the top of your payscale I wouldn't say it is a career job.
Not saying EMS isn't a good job. But if 100k is the top of your payscale I wouldn't say it is a career job.
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Go ahead and look up year 2 FO pay at every major/legacy and get back to me. Not to mention every year they contribute 16% to your 401k without you putting in a single dime. So your 90-100k sounds good today, but over the course of a career you're losing millions.
Not saying EMS isn't a good job. But if 100k is the top of your payscale I wouldn't say it is a career job.
Not saying EMS isn't a good job. But if 100k is the top of your payscale I wouldn't say it is a career job.
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Seriously, Ameriflight or any 135 operator that flies on a regular basis is excellent preparation for a regional.
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And that's coming from a guy who worked at AMF for a while. Now had 121.436(a)3 not been written in the way it is, making 135 freight time worthless, AMF would have more value.
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I'm never said that it isn't good preparation, but at a 121 carrier seniority is everything. If you are doing anything north of 50 hours a month doing the CFI thing, sticking it out 6 months to go the 121 route is a better move long term career-wise, if flying 121 is the route you want to take.
And that's coming from a guy who worked at AMF for a while. Now had 121.436(a)3 not been written in the way it is, making 135 freight time worthless, AMF would have more value.
And that's coming from a guy who worked at AMF for a while. Now had 121.436(a)3 not been written in the way it is, making 135 freight time worthless, AMF would have more value.
Any large carrier is not going to hire you direct to the left seat. You will still spend a couple of years (at least) in the right seat, where you will get your required 1000 hours of 121 time. So having the 121 time in a regional, at least from the standpoint of the regulations, has no more value than time at AMF would be.
Now, when it comes to the actual hiring folks, I have heard both ways about the importance of previous 121 time. And most of the ones I have heard say the 121 time is more important, have all been folks who DID go to the regional. I have talked to a few hiring folks who say it isn't that critical.
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135 time isn't worthless for other 135 time. Single pilot flying is great for thinking on your own, but there is also no checks and balance when it's just you, do you won't be gaining any CRM skills by flying a small turboprop by yourself. With there only being a couple hundred ours between 135 mins and ATP mins, it makes no sense to go 135. The stigma of going from 121 to 135 is long gone, the experience is more relevant to anything you'll be doing that's half way a career job, and you'll learn proper habits early on. Lots of stuff has to be unlearned when you leave AMF.
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That's because of an overall lack of consistency, and procedure, honestly it is shocking that AMF hasn't been shut down for the cultural issues that stem even today. But to be fair, lots of pilots have no accountability there. They are on an out stationed run, then fly by themselves, and every 6 months they have to remember how AMF wants them to fly. At a company with a second crew member, it's much easier to do the right thing.
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