Cape Air First Officer Questions
06-28-2016, 06:55 AM
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I was at 9k for 2 years, as FO then captain. I'm not sure if they're still basing FO's in HYA, since most of the routes out of there are short and the loads often full- not good for FO time building. Your best chance of being based in HYA is flying the mail plane to Nantucket once you hit 1200 hrs. But you will only be able to do that from 1200-1500 hrs, then you'll have to upgrade to captain and bid with the all the other senior captains, for 30+ bases. Sadly, Cape Air's amount of Cape and Islands flying is getting less and less, while they focus more on the EAS flying. While it certainly is possible to be based on cape, when you come to 9k you have to be prepared to move, perhaps every 6 months until you get enough seniority, ie 2 yrs or so. Pretty fun company to work for overall but the basing system is rough. Getting BOS as an FO is do-able. As a captain, Provincetown is somewhat junior, in the winter anyways, so that's a possibility for you to stay on cape.
06-28-2016, 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 1800RVR
I was at 9k for 2 years, as FO then captain. I'm not sure if they're still basing FO's in HYA, since most of the routes out of there are short and the loads often full- not good for FO time building. Your best chance of being based in HYA is flying the mail plane to Nantucket once you hit 1200 hrs. But you will only be able to do that from 1200-1500 hrs, then you'll have to upgrade to captain and bid with the all the other senior captains, for 30+ bases. Sadly, Cape Air's amount of Cape and Islands flying is getting less and less, while they focus more on the EAS flying. While it certainly is possible to be based on cape, when you come to 9k you have to be prepared to move, perhaps every 6 months until you get enough seniority, ie 2 yrs or so. Pretty fun company to work for overall but the basing system is rough. Getting BOS as an FO is do-able. As a captain, Provincetown is somewhat junior, in the winter anyways, so that's a possibility for you to stay on cape.
06-29-2016, 05:26 PM
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Just out of curiosity what are the main reasons that street captains fail the training?
During ground school or the actual checkride?
Some things were already mentioned by V1rotate but what are the other reasons?
And if they fail, does Cape alow them a retake or that's it and they let him go?
During ground school or the actual checkride?
Some things were already mentioned by V1rotate but what are the other reasons?
And if they fail, does Cape alow them a retake or that's it and they let him go?
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06-29-2016, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by F50driver
Just out of curiosity what are the main reasons that street captains fail the training?
During ground school or the actual checkride?
Some things were already mentioned by V1rotate but what are the other reasons?
And if they fail, does Cape alow them a retake or that's it and they let him go?
During ground school or the actual checkride?
Some things were already mentioned by V1rotate but what are the other reasons?
And if they fail, does Cape alow them a retake or that's it and they let him go?
Not being familiar with the Garmin GPS is a problem as well. Every trainer wants the same task completed in a different way.
Retakes have been allowed. I've seen captains that needed 40+ hours before they could do their ride. And then some of those guys became company check airmen.
The training is somehow thorough and sloppy at the same time.
I hope that helps.
06-30-2016, 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by reservetank
Street captain candidates have bombed out in ground, training, and on the ride. There's lots of reasons. It's safe to say that not being instrument current hurt a number of captains in training. Cape has a pretty coarse screen for applicants as long as they met the minimum requirements. Also, not being able to get the flows down hurt others. Some just got frustrated at the pace of training and found other work.
Not being familiar with the Garmin GPS is a problem as well. Every trainer wants the same task completed in a different way.
Retakes have been allowed. I've seen captains that needed 40+ hours before they could do their ride. And then some of those guys became company check airmen.
The training is somehow thorough and sloppy at the same time.
I hope that helps.
Not being familiar with the Garmin GPS is a problem as well. Every trainer wants the same task completed in a different way.
Retakes have been allowed. I've seen captains that needed 40+ hours before they could do their ride. And then some of those guys became company check airmen.
The training is somehow thorough and sloppy at the same time.
I hope that helps.
06-30-2016, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by 1800RVR
I was at 9k for 2 years, as FO then captain. I'm not sure if they're still basing FO's in HYA, since most of the routes out of there are short and the loads often full- not good for FO time building. Your best chance of being based in HYA is flying the mail plane to Nantucket once you hit 1200 hrs. But you will only be able to do that from 1200-1500 hrs, then you'll have to upgrade to captain and bid with the all the other senior captains, for 30+ bases. Sadly, Cape Air's amount of Cape and Islands flying is getting less and less, while they focus more on the EAS flying. While it certainly is possible to be based on cape, when you come to 9k you have to be prepared to move, perhaps every 6 months until you get enough seniority, ie 2 yrs or so. Pretty fun company to work for overall but the basing system is rough. Getting BOS as an FO is do-able. As a captain, Provincetown is somewhat junior, in the winter anyways, so that's a possibility for you to stay on cape.
Thanks to all for the replies.
09-10-2017, 07:16 AM
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Did you end up with Cape Air?
Originally Posted by Hooper
Hello all, I'm seeking information about the first officer position with Cape Air.
My situation is this, I'm looking at this as a second career/retirement occupation. I live on Cape Cod and don't really have the desire to relocate to Montana or St. Louis, or anywhere else, if I can help it. And, I'm not looking to move up to a large regional/major. Basically, I'd like to fly locally.
I have read info on this forum about it but specifically I'd like to hear from those who started as FO's and were upgraded to CA. I'm wondering how long that transition generally takes. And, where were you based and how was that decided.
Truly appreciate any information provided.
-Hooper
My situation is this, I'm looking at this as a second career/retirement occupation. I live on Cape Cod and don't really have the desire to relocate to Montana or St. Louis, or anywhere else, if I can help it. And, I'm not looking to move up to a large regional/major. Basically, I'd like to fly locally.
I have read info on this forum about it but specifically I'd like to hear from those who started as FO's and were upgraded to CA. I'm wondering how long that transition generally takes. And, where were you based and how was that decided.
Truly appreciate any information provided.
-Hooper
09-13-2017, 11:00 AM
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Here is an article about Cape Air from Aero Crew News a free pilot hiring online magazine. You can click on this link to download and view. It's fairly recent (Feb 2017). Also you can view all previous monthly editions, lots of good info. Cape Air is one of the featured airlines in this edition.
February 2017 | Aero Crew News
February 2017 | Aero Crew News
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