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hittman31 01-07-2017 05:58 PM

Ryan air services AK
 
Anyone know the status of Ryan Air hiring? Pay? Schedule? 15on/15off I assume. Nothing recent seems to have been posted about them.

Thanks!

Macchi30 01-11-2017 10:34 AM

I have 0 experience since I am still in Flight School. But a friend of mine used to fly for Hageland Aviation Services which is apart of the Ravn Alaska brand. From what I understand, Ravn Alaska itself is Part 121, whereas Hageland and Frontier Flying are Part 135. I just talked to him about this yesterday, and he told me there is a current investigation on Hageland and Frontier due to recent crashes. He said their insurance company is probably going to pull their certifications. That's really all I know, but I figured I'd share.

PrettyFlyGuy 01-11-2017 11:01 AM

I currently fly up here and have friends at Ryan. They won't specifically say what they make but the average is $200-$250/day for most employers so if I had a guess it would be close to that. Yes it's 15on/15off and you have CASS so must jumpseat up here(which is a pain believe me). If you are low time they make you a radioman right seat in a casa until you can fly the 207 PIC. They are one of the better operators but the down side is you don't fly as much as the rest. Hageland and Yute fly a ton and pay more overall than the rest. So if you want money and hours they are the 2 best.
Are you a fresh commercial or experienced?
As far as hageland goes they've been crashing planes and killing people for decades so any recent events won't change it and they just passed a huge inspection this summer so they definitely aren't going anywhere. They are a huge operation and western Alaska would fall apart without them. The Feds up here are the biggest morons in the industry and half of them aren't pilots or a&ps so they literally have no clue what's going on.

alaskadrifter 01-11-2017 07:05 PM


Originally Posted by Macchi30 (Post 2279116)
I have 0 experience since I am still in Flight School. But a friend of mine used to fly for Hageland Aviation Services which is apart of the Ravn Alaska brand. From what I understand, Ravn Alaska itself is Part 121, whereas Hageland and Frontier Flying are Part 135. I just talked to him about this yesterday, and he told me there is a current investigation on Hageland and Frontier due to recent crashes. He said their insurance company is probably going to pull their certifications. That's really all I know, but I figured I'd share.

Insurance companies can't pull FAA certs. Western AK wouldn't fall apart with Hagey gone, someone else would step up, but I don't see them going anywhere. If the two recent accidents, one was a freak midair (which are extremely rare) and the other no one knows what happened.

chris tarderz 04-14-2017 07:06 PM

Are they still looking for pilots by any chance?

Toddzilla 04-14-2017 11:03 PM


Originally Posted by alaskadrifter (Post 2279523)
Insurance companies can't pull FAA certs. Western AK wouldn't fall apart with Hagey gone, someone else would step up, but I don't see them going anywhere. If the two recent accidents, one was a freak midair (which are extremely rare) and the other no one knows what happened.

The other one was pretty obvious...

Toddzilla 04-14-2017 11:15 PM

That being said, Ryan Air is a pretty good company. I helped unload a few casas while sitting on charters and regularly chased them around the Delta. The pilots all seem cool. Not sure what the pay is right now, but Hageland just dramatically raised pay earlier this year. No idea if Ryan will be able to match it, but the pay was very similar beforehand. They just recently got their passenger ticket back from what I understand, but I think it's still mostly mail and bulky freight that Ryan is flying.

Kougarok 04-15-2017 07:30 AM

Ryan has some really good people running the show. They've always tended to pay a little less then everyone else though. They hired me for my first flying job in the early eighties. I went from 300 hours time to 6,000 and captain in a 1900 in 5 years. Like the rest of the operators up there they've had their share of fatal accidents. There's a reason they only recently got passenger service back.

If I ever went back to flying in Alaska I would go back to work for Bering Air in Nome with Ryan Air being my second choice.

Toddzilla 04-15-2017 10:08 AM


Originally Posted by Kougarok (Post 2343764)
Ryan has some really good people running the show. They've always tended to pay a little less then everyone else though. They hired me for my first flying job in the early eighties. I went from 300 hours time to 6,000 and captain in a 1900 in 5 years. Like the rest of the operators up there they've had their share of fatal accidents. There's a reason they only recently got passenger service back.

If I ever went back to flying in Alaska I would go back to work for Bering Air in Nome with Ryan Air being my second choice.

Yep- even with the raises Hageland made, I know a guy who picked Ryan over Hageland to drive a sled. I wouldn't hesitate to send anybody I know looking for work in AK their direction. And I'm definitely in the same boat as you re: Bering if I decide to go back. I actually turned down a trip to Kotz to check things out with them to head Outside for a bit. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Bering has ever had a fatal accident?

Javichu 04-15-2017 10:13 AM

Apparently Hageland has made dramatic Changes in the last few months, for good this time

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