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hittman31 01-07-2017 05:58 PM

Ryan air services AK
 
Anyone know the status of Ryan Air hiring? Pay? Schedule? 15on/15off I assume. Nothing recent seems to have been posted about them.

Thanks!

Macchi30 01-11-2017 10:34 AM

I have 0 experience since I am still in Flight School. But a friend of mine used to fly for Hageland Aviation Services which is apart of the Ravn Alaska brand. From what I understand, Ravn Alaska itself is Part 121, whereas Hageland and Frontier Flying are Part 135. I just talked to him about this yesterday, and he told me there is a current investigation on Hageland and Frontier due to recent crashes. He said their insurance company is probably going to pull their certifications. That's really all I know, but I figured I'd share.

PrettyFlyGuy 01-11-2017 11:01 AM

I currently fly up here and have friends at Ryan. They won't specifically say what they make but the average is $200-$250/day for most employers so if I had a guess it would be close to that. Yes it's 15on/15off and you have CASS so must jumpseat up here(which is a pain believe me). If you are low time they make you a radioman right seat in a casa until you can fly the 207 PIC. They are one of the better operators but the down side is you don't fly as much as the rest. Hageland and Yute fly a ton and pay more overall than the rest. So if you want money and hours they are the 2 best.
Are you a fresh commercial or experienced?
As far as hageland goes they've been crashing planes and killing people for decades so any recent events won't change it and they just passed a huge inspection this summer so they definitely aren't going anywhere. They are a huge operation and western Alaska would fall apart without them. The Feds up here are the biggest morons in the industry and half of them aren't pilots or a&ps so they literally have no clue what's going on.

alaskadrifter 01-11-2017 07:05 PM


Originally Posted by Macchi30 (Post 2279116)
I have 0 experience since I am still in Flight School. But a friend of mine used to fly for Hageland Aviation Services which is apart of the Ravn Alaska brand. From what I understand, Ravn Alaska itself is Part 121, whereas Hageland and Frontier Flying are Part 135. I just talked to him about this yesterday, and he told me there is a current investigation on Hageland and Frontier due to recent crashes. He said their insurance company is probably going to pull their certifications. That's really all I know, but I figured I'd share.

Insurance companies can't pull FAA certs. Western AK wouldn't fall apart with Hagey gone, someone else would step up, but I don't see them going anywhere. If the two recent accidents, one was a freak midair (which are extremely rare) and the other no one knows what happened.

chris tarderz 04-14-2017 07:06 PM

Are they still looking for pilots by any chance?

Toddzilla 04-14-2017 11:03 PM


Originally Posted by alaskadrifter (Post 2279523)
Insurance companies can't pull FAA certs. Western AK wouldn't fall apart with Hagey gone, someone else would step up, but I don't see them going anywhere. If the two recent accidents, one was a freak midair (which are extremely rare) and the other no one knows what happened.

The other one was pretty obvious...

Toddzilla 04-14-2017 11:15 PM

That being said, Ryan Air is a pretty good company. I helped unload a few casas while sitting on charters and regularly chased them around the Delta. The pilots all seem cool. Not sure what the pay is right now, but Hageland just dramatically raised pay earlier this year. No idea if Ryan will be able to match it, but the pay was very similar beforehand. They just recently got their passenger ticket back from what I understand, but I think it's still mostly mail and bulky freight that Ryan is flying.

Kougarok 04-15-2017 07:30 AM

Ryan has some really good people running the show. They've always tended to pay a little less then everyone else though. They hired me for my first flying job in the early eighties. I went from 300 hours time to 6,000 and captain in a 1900 in 5 years. Like the rest of the operators up there they've had their share of fatal accidents. There's a reason they only recently got passenger service back.

If I ever went back to flying in Alaska I would go back to work for Bering Air in Nome with Ryan Air being my second choice.

Toddzilla 04-15-2017 10:08 AM


Originally Posted by Kougarok (Post 2343764)
Ryan has some really good people running the show. They've always tended to pay a little less then everyone else though. They hired me for my first flying job in the early eighties. I went from 300 hours time to 6,000 and captain in a 1900 in 5 years. Like the rest of the operators up there they've had their share of fatal accidents. There's a reason they only recently got passenger service back.

If I ever went back to flying in Alaska I would go back to work for Bering Air in Nome with Ryan Air being my second choice.

Yep- even with the raises Hageland made, I know a guy who picked Ryan over Hageland to drive a sled. I wouldn't hesitate to send anybody I know looking for work in AK their direction. And I'm definitely in the same boat as you re: Bering if I decide to go back. I actually turned down a trip to Kotz to check things out with them to head Outside for a bit. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Bering has ever had a fatal accident?

Javichu 04-15-2017 10:13 AM

Apparently Hageland has made dramatic Changes in the last few months, for good this time

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SZACP 04-19-2017 03:55 AM


Originally Posted by Toddzilla (Post 2343874)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Bering has ever had a fatal accident?

In the 80's Bering lost a pilot who made a forced landing and died of hypothermia before he could be picked up the next day. They have an outstanding safety record for 35+ years of operation in western Alaska.

Toddzilla 04-19-2017 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by Javichu (Post 2343879)
Apparently Hageland has made dramatic Changes in the last few months, for good this time

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Yes, they now wear safety vests! Right as I was leaving, they sent out a memo saying they were making the vans IFR only for any airport >20 miles away with an approach, regardless of the weather. Not sure if they ever updated their books, though.

Despite that, it was still perfectly fine for a sled to launch in 600/2 SVFR and cruise around at 500'. So a less equipped aircraft with a less experienced pilot could still tuck along at 500' with his forehead in the soup, but a better equipped aircraft with a more experienced (and oftentimes multi) crew had to go IFR on a clear and a million day.

I don't know the solution, but what they did after the second crash of 2016 wasn't even close to right.

It's been almost five months since I left, though, so maybe things really are finally turning around. The pay has increased dramatically and I've known a few people to head back out for it.


Originally Posted by SZACP (Post 2346284)
In the 80's Bering lost a pilot who made a forced landing and died of hypothermia before he could be picked up the next day. They have an outstanding safety record for 35+ years of operation in western Alaska.

Man, I had never heard that. Either way, their record is absolutely stellar. Like I said before, Ryan and Bering are where I would go if I ever decide to go back.

Javichu 04-19-2017 11:11 AM

I guess Changes are not that dramatic haha, but those IFR procedures should help in my opinion

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bostonpilot55 07-07-2017 07:55 AM

Will Ryan Air hire a right hire a fresh commercial pilot without a multi-engine license?

PrettyFlyGuy 07-07-2017 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by bostonpilot55 (Post 2390867)
Will Ryan Air hire a right hire a fresh commercial pilot without a multi-engine license?

The grammar is a bit confusing but I assume you mean your a 250Hr pilot? I never met anyone there without one. They seem to put guys in the sled after flying right seat in the Casa which requires a multi. So you can apply and give it a shot but Ryan usually gets a good number of applicants so I assume they will pick the guy with the multi.

hayzel7 01-08-2021 12:03 PM

Hiring!
 
Ryan Air recently put out an SIC position for Anchorage, AK.

Minimum 250 TT with Comm Single and Multi. Is this for their Casa or the PC-12?

Pilot ? SIC

stang 01-08-2021 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by hayzel7 (Post 3179131)
Ryan Air recently put out an SIC position for Anchorage, AK.

Minimum 250 TT with Comm Single and Multi. Is this for their Casa or the PC-12?

Pilot ? SIC

Most likely Casa. It's a lot of hard work up there but a great experience. I worked up on the North slope a few years back. Not for Ryan but another no longer in business AK pt135 company

Mordi 01-08-2021 01:09 PM

I'd be surprised if they didn't start you in the casa. I think they bought a saab not to long ago to. I'll echo the last guy... Alaska flying is alot of work. Make sure you try the muktuk.

stang 01-08-2021 03:04 PM


Originally Posted by Mordi (Post 3179160)
I'd be surprised if they didn't start you in the casa. I think they bought a saab not to long ago to. I'll echo the last guy... Alaska flying is alot of work. Make sure you try the muktuk.

Used to fly buckets of Kimchi from Barrow to Point Hope to go with the muktuk. :) Sam & Lee's in Barrow would make it and ship out in 5 gallon buckets.

mixture lean 01-10-2021 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by Mordi (Post 3179160)
I'd be surprised if they didn't start you in the casa. I think they bought a saab not to long ago to. I'll echo the last guy... Alaska flying is alot of work. Make sure you try the muktuk.

I believe they have a second saab now. They're hiring up to 6 SICs according to the job posting on their facebook page. It's possible that there may be an open spot on the saab, but I agree that most, if not all, will go to the casa

av8home 08-02-2022 03:56 PM

Does anyone here have any info on Ryan pay? In particular for the Sabb FO or 207 PIC?


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