multi time building
 

I'm looking to build some multi time, I only need about 16 hrs to make the 25 hrs req'd for the regionals. I'm located in DFW but could also travel to the NYC tri-state area as well. I'd prefer to do some contract work to accomplish that, but if anyone wants to split time let me know.

1500tt
820 turbine time
CMEL+ASEL
IFR current

Why not get a job flying multi engine airplanes, get some actual operational experience, instead of sticking a few tomen hours in your logbook?

God forbid that a paying passenger actually grts a pilot with something other than the bare minimum.

Not an option.

Good god. Millenials.

Gotta have it all now?

Yep, gotta have it all for free. College, multi time, rent, transportation...everything. happy? Please troll elsewhere.

And you've got to have it now. No possibility of earning that experience, or gaining more than the bare minimum.

Paying passengers deserve better, and wont get it. Pathetic.

Because you know my life's story, how i've got my flight time, paid for it, and what experience I have. I'm simply asking for a little help. Instead, you'd rather hi-jack the thread to get your rocks off. I said it is not an option. Respectfully please go else where because you're not offering any sort of help.

Dont know your life story, dont care, either. I do know how to put you on the ignore list with the others, though.

Well ok then, have yourself a great day! :confused:

These up and coming pilots gotta have everything given to then..(sarcasm) like getting hired at 250hrs at a regional like back when John Burke started his career

Even though you seem pretty proud of your own opinions, the FAA disagrees. Every job has minimum requirements for entry. The market decides if those minimums are enough, not some guy on the internet with an over-inflated sense of self. To the OP, good luck on the search.

I had about seven thousand hours when I was hired with my first airline, but that's quite irrelevant. Better luck with your sarcasm next time.

I said nothing of self, nor did I express any level of pride in opinion. You did, just now.

The FAA does not disagree or agree. The regulation mandates ATP qualifications as a minimum in this case, and does so because it was mandated so by congress as a political action. The FAA expresses no approval or disapproval in the matter.

Seeking out the bare minimum qualification, however, has never been a hallmark of professionalism.

As for the market deciding adequacy of experience, also untrue. The regionals have long been bottom feeders, paying as little as possible (see a theme there?), and often get those who seek out to do the bare minimum, as a result.

It's irrelevant, but yet here it is:rolleyes:

"Pathetic" Uh...ok...



So I wait until I have 7000 hours flying a Navajo or KA around and now I'm professional? Mmmm...


So you're saying the market has no bearing on the mins operators hire at? Other than legally mandated mins, I'm not sure how you make this argument - or maybe I'm inferring something you're not implying..? I need to hire 25 pilots a month, I receive 100 applications per month vs. I scrounge for applicants, send mailers based on the airman database, etc. Just because you chose to pull yourself from the market (which I commend you for in some sense if that's what you did way back when) you're still off the market. I'm not arguing pilot shortage, just market segment shortage here. And I absolutely think it affects initial hiring qualifications.

I don't see your connection with regionals, pay, and pilots hired by them seeking to get by with the bare minimum. So anyone in any profession should pass on a job where they are minimally qualified, go do something else not as closely related, and then come back when they are more qualified? I want to fly 121 at a 'respectable' mainline operator. I don't have the experience for them to look twice at my app. I can get hired by a regional - 3000TT, but only 1000 airplane, and 125 ME - but I shouldn't because it's unprofessional and I'm seeking the bare minimum? Please explain this one more.

Not trying to get in a pi$$ing match - you have way more experience in the airplane/civilian side - I do enjoy hearing opposing viewpoints. I just feel like you're painting with a really broad brush and may be a bit biased by the path you followed.

Those 16 hrs you're looking for better be high quality time with an 1000 year old evil MEI.
Doodling around VFR is not going to be of any value.
You still have sim rides to pass so you'd better be on top of your game.
SE approaches and if you find a capable twin also SE go arounds.
Holds, VOR/NDB you get the idea.

Yes, irrelevant, and there it was, because YOU brought it up.

So you say. I said nothing of the kind. Speak for yourself, if you think you're able.

I didn't. I've been steadily flying for several decades. I'm not off the market, nor was I. Again, irrelevant, but you brought it up.

Clearly you don't. It may be a comprehension problem, or perhaps you're simply very new.

If you say so. I certainly didn't. Speak for yourself, if you think you are able.

You're not minimally qualified, nor did you state that your'e seeking to get by with the bare minimum. You aren't trying to get a paltry few multi hours to get barely qualified, and your case is irrelevant as you're seeking neither the bare minimum (the original poster is seeking a position at the regionals, and you are not). Explaining it to you might likely go over your head, given your difficulty in understanding.

No, my view is based on several decades of professional experience.

Wow - sorry to waste your time. Wouldn't want you to have to explain yourself and have it go over my head. I know you'll see it as anything but, but cheese and rice, get defensive much? I'll let you have the last word - as I know you always must. Won't make the mistake of engaging a professional again:rolleyes:

lol yea. That is the most derp i've seen on the interweb in awhile, but whatever, just trying to get it done for a class date in july.

No kidding, and I'm disappointed in myself that I engaged:D.

This is the result of the way the industry operates. Low time pilot pay is below poverty wages, so people can't afford to do low time jobs for very long.

The wages arent low to prevent people from doing low wage jobs for very long.

The wages are low because people agree to work for them, because there's no pilot shortage, because of cheap employers, because there's no shortage of dazed wannabees with shiny jet syndrome who will work for nothing, and because people are willing to accept it.

Lets face it, airlines and corporations have been selling jobs for some time, charging those willing to prostitute themselves for training, interviews, ratings, etc...and there's been no shortage of those willing to bend over for it. It's the typical race to the bottom. Not asking what one can do to get some solid time and experience under their belt, but how they can get the absolute minimum. Do as little as possible. Be as little as possible.

It's the gospel of the milennial church. Much like the guy that pulled up to the opposite side of the fuel pump a few days ago as I filled up. "sure wish this stuff was free," He muttered. "I dont see why they cant just give it to me."

There are lazier, but not much.

Almost 3 pages of this and not a single helpful reply......:confused:

Mine was....
Pick me pick me pick me
;)

I'm not too worried about the IFR aspect and approaches. I'm IFR current because of my current job, flying 60+ hours a month in all sorts of weather. The SE stuff is like riding a bike.

yep. this place was my last resort, and you can see why with all that troll hi jacking the thread.

Do not underestimate the cost of a training fail because you don't hack the sim.
Good luck in any case.

You must be new here :o

Wrong. The wages are low because that's what the elasticity of demand will support. If cost goes up so do prices which means less customers which means less profit. Many small operators are on the margins anyway.



So you want to blame people for not wanting to earn poverty level wages for long periods of time? :rolleyes:

I said nothing of the kind.

You just did.

Speak for yourself, if you think yourself remotely capable. Don't attempt to put the words in my mouth.

Check out Multi time, twin time, time building, airline requirements
Its based out of Plant City, FL KPCM. You fly a Piper Apache. I did it last year in Jan. Mike pairs you up with another pilot and then you both build time, with one under the hood, for about $100/hour. Mike is a super nice guy and will work with you to set you up with another pilot. I got to fly to KEYW. It was a blast. You can also fly single pilot for about $200/hour.

I thought mike was based out of Terrell, TX KTRL. Has he relocated to FL?

if so thats amazing because TRL is only a 40 minute drive. thanks.

Digging the music too, gotta be the cheapest ME time

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vOuyIFB4lZM

JohnBourke....JohnBourke...JohnBourke....
 

There goes JohnBourke again! Always correcting everyone like grand old daddy who knows it all. How do you know the gentleman is a Millennial?... Oh yes,...its because I "lack reading comprehension", right?

All I know is that he was at PCM when I met him.

You are a tool

They had airplanes way back then...?

No one will ever know, all that we know is that he needed 7000 hours (in who knows what) to get his first 121 job.

guys, he's just trying to help us poor millennials realize the foolishness of our generation :rolleyes: