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samimifs 04-30-2018 11:20 AM

270 TT commercial AMEL/SEL with 4 year degree
 
Hello Everyone,

I am fairly new to this forum and just wanted to make a post and introduce myself. I currently have 270 total flight hours, 100+ in the Cessna 172, 100+ in Piper Archer (pa-28-181) and 40hrs in the Seminole (Pa-44-180). I am an Embry Riddle grad with a degree in Aeronautics! At this point of my career CFI is not an option for me due to my financial situations so I have been actively looking and applying at every place I could think of. I am very flexible with re-locating and working hard hours and my main goal is to build time. Is there anywhere that you guys would recommend me applying to that I might have missed out or anyone I can get in personal contact with would be much appreciated. I have looked at places in Alaska, Hawaii, Marianas and just haven't had any luck with my total hours. I'm willing to do any job that would help me build some time and take the next step in my aviation career. I would appreciate any help/comments.

Best,

Soheil

ZeroTT 04-30-2018 11:59 AM

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dera 04-30-2018 12:08 PM


Originally Posted by ZeroTT (Post 2583343)

Almost impossible to get a DZ job with under 500TT, unless you know someone.
0 to 500 hours is the hardest time to get if you choose not to get your CFI. After 500, there are tons of options.

Riverside 04-30-2018 02:47 PM

Your best bet is get on with a flight school that pays for your CFI.

brocklee9000 04-30-2018 02:48 PM

Unfortunately, a lot of "entry level" jobs want at least 500 hours, sometimes up to 1,000. I didn't have money for CFI when I graduated, and I tried my best to get any job I could. I had a few leads but ultimately nothing worked out. By then, I was able to save up some money and get some from family as well, and just sucked it up and got CFI and then CFII. Now I'm getting paid and getting hours, it was hard and sucked getting here, but it's finally paying off.

If you're down there in Florida, one of the survey companies is based out of there. Air America. Granted, they've got a...reputation. Most people have a pretty polarized opinion of their operation, and at least a few people here and on jetcareers have worked there. They hire fresh guys, and might even have a summer season. But usually they and other survey companies start up in the Fall.

Another option to look into is Grand Canyon/Scenic Airlines. They fly caravans and twin otters. I think the summer is their busier season, so they might even be actively looking for FOs. A friend of mine was fortunate enough to get a job there at the end of last summer, even though they were rolling into the end of the busy season.

There's also a company or two in Alaska that might hire lower time guys. I've heard Ravn/Hageland does. I'd look into some of those options, and start scouring sites like climbto350 and bizjetjobs and whatnot. They require a paid membership unfortunately, but I got several job leads from those sites last summer when I was in your shoes.

Additionally, some schools advertise paying for or subsidizing the CFI cost, in exchange for a minimum commitment. I can't think of any specifics off the top of my head, but I know I've seen and heard of options like this. For example, after I got CFI, a couple schools wouldn't hire without CFII as well but they offered to pay for it if I committed a certain amount of months or hours. One school wanted a 12 month commitment, the other wanted 600 hours of dual instruction given (or somewhere around that). Honestly an option like that is probably going to be the best. CFI is a guaranteed job and hours once you get the certificate, so if you can find a busy flight academy with something like that, that's a potentially good setup.

dera 04-30-2018 04:13 PM


Originally Posted by brocklee9000 (Post 2583432)
Another option to look into is Grand Canyon/Scenic Airlines. They fly caravans and twin otters. I think the summer is their busier season, so they might even be actively looking for FOs. A friend of mine was fortunate enough to get a job there at the end of last summer, even though they were rolling into the end of the busy season.

GCA needs 750 for their Caravans (no FOs) and 500 for the Otter FOs.

peaches 04-30-2018 05:07 PM

My company in North Carolina has hired 4 new FOs recently (all under 300 hours) to fly Citation Jets, King Airs, and Citation Excels. I know of at least one FO that is leaving soon. Not sure if they will hire to replace or just keep the FO list at the current number once he leaves.

I can ask and find out, but there are plenty of operators that never advertise job openings that would hire someone with less than 500 hours. You either need to know someone or do a lot of research.

I have used two successful methods of finding companies that hire but dont advertise.

1) Download the Part 135 list of Operators off Google. It has all of the part 135 operators. I then google the name of the company I find in the area I want to live to see if they have a website and then find an email address to contact and go from there.

2) Target a specific area or airport you want to live/fly out of and look at the arrivals and departures on flightaware. Eventually you will notice the same tail numbers flying in and you can find out who owns the airplane or which company it is registered to. Then just follow the last sentence of method 1.

Some people might think it is "stalkerish" but I can personally say that I received a job offer recently due to this tactic and impressed the interviewer with my persistence.

The jobs you see advertised on APC are great, but they are just the very tip of the iceberg.


Good Luck in your search!

wmlocante 05-01-2018 06:49 AM


Originally Posted by peaches (Post 2583508)
My company in North Carolina has hired 4 new FOs recently (all under 300 hours) to fly Citation Jets, King Airs, and Citation Excels. I know of at least one FO that is leaving soon. Not sure if they will hire to replace or just keep the FO list at the current number once he leaves.

I can ask and find out, but there are plenty of operators that never advertise job openings that would hire someone with less than 500 hours. You either need to know someone or do a lot of research.

I have used two successful methods of finding companies that hire but dont advertise.

1) Download the Part 135 list of Operators off Google. It has all of the part 135 operators. I then google the name of the company I find in the area I want to live to see if they have a website and then find an email address to contact and go from there.

2) Target a specific area or airport you want to live/fly out of and look at the arrivals and departures on flightaware. Eventually you will notice the same tail numbers flying in and you can find out who owns the airplane or which company it is registered to. Then just follow the last sentence of method 1.

Some people might think it is "stalkerish" but I can personally say that I received a job offer recently due to this tactic and impressed the interviewer with my persistence.

The jobs you see advertised on APC are great, but they are just the very tip of the iceberg.


Good Luck in your search!

What is this name of your company in NC?

Selfmade92 05-01-2018 07:33 AM

Hawkeye Helicopter is looking for Fixedwing Pilots, 40 to 50k/yr, no hour requirement as per their ad. Might have to move to Oklahoma or Texas though. :eek:

Careers | Hawkeye Helicopter

kingsnake2 05-01-2018 07:43 AM


Originally Posted by samimifs (Post 2583321)
Hello Everyone,

I am fairly new to this forum and just wanted to make a post and introduce myself. I currently have 270 total flight hours, 100+ in the Cessna 172, 100+ in Piper Archer (pa-28-181) and 40hrs in the Seminole (Pa-44-180). I am an Embry Riddle grad with a degree in Aeronautics! At this point of my career CFI is not an option for me due to my financial situations so I have been actively looking and applying at every place I could think of. I am very flexible with re-locating and working hard hours and my main goal is to build time. Is there anywhere that you guys would recommend me applying to that I might have missed out or anyone I can get in personal contact with would be much appreciated. I have looked at places in Alaska, Hawaii, Marianas and just haven't had any luck with my total hours. I'm willing to do any job that would help me build some time and take the next step in my aviation career. I would appreciate any help/comments.

Best,

Soheil

Silver Airways helps sponsor CFI/CFII training and US Aviation Academy is hiring. PM me and I can make the connection and see if that's an option for you.

samimifs 05-01-2018 10:13 AM

Got a job offer yesterday guys!!!! Star Marianas Air emailed me and offered me a position to operate Cessna and PA-28-181's and do discovery flights! I could not be more stoked!!

brocklee9000 05-02-2018 05:57 PM

There are also some other lower hour operators. I occasionally hear of someone getting picked up by Mokulele, Southern Airways Express, Air Choice One, and a couple at Air Cargo Carriers. All but the last one fly Caravans.


Originally Posted by dera (Post 2583477)
GCA needs 750 for their Caravans (no FOs) and 500 for the Otter FOs.

Not always. My friend that got hired on had a fresh part 141 commercial, so between flight school and a little flying on the side, he didn't have more than 250 hours. It's not advertised, and probably not the norm, but it's also not unheard of.

Sidewinder99 05-03-2018 08:37 AM


Originally Posted by samimifs (Post 2583321)
Hello Everyone,

I am fairly new to this forum and just wanted to make a post and introduce myself. I currently have 270 total flight hours, 100+ in the Cessna 172, 100+ in Piper Archer (pa-28-181) and 40hrs in the Seminole (Pa-44-180). I am an Embry Riddle grad with a degree in Aeronautics! At this point of my career CFI is not an option for me due to my financial situations so I have been actively looking and applying at every place I could think of. I am very flexible with re-locating and working hard hours and my main goal is to build time. Is there anywhere that you guys would recommend me applying to that I might have missed out or anyone I can get in personal contact with would be much appreciated. I have looked at places in Alaska, Hawaii, Marianas and just haven't had any luck with my total hours. I'm willing to do any job that would help me build some time and take the next step in my aviation career. I would appreciate any help/comments.

Best,

Soheil


Your best bet for building flight time is with Hageland in Alaska. They will take you with 250 hours and you’ll build close to 800 hours your first year and make good money. You need a referral though without that you don’t have a chance. If your interested send me a message.

samimifs 05-03-2018 10:06 AM

I got a job fellas!!!! Flying out of Saipan with Star Marianas Air. Thank you everyone for your help and time to help me out. I really appreciate it. I'm headed out there on May 15th! Could not be any more excited for this opportunity.

deftone 05-05-2018 10:42 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 2583351)
0 to 500 hours is the hardest time to get if you choose not to get your CFI. After 500, there are tons of options.

Is it viewed negatively to clock up a bunch of hours in your own aircraft to get to 500? I have a Rans S-14 that I have been using to build hours cheaply but I had not planned on going all the way to 500.

155mm 05-06-2018 08:42 AM


Originally Posted by deftone (Post 2587226)
Is it viewed negatively to clock up a bunch of hours in your own aircraft to get to 500? I have a Rans S-14 that I have been using to build hours cheaply but I had not planned on going all the way to 500.

No......unless its "Parker pen time". If you are worried about your time building being questioned/scrutinized, file, open and close a flight plan so it's on the record.

ClemsonPilot 05-07-2018 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by peaches (Post 2583508)
My company in North Carolina has hired 4 new FOs recently (all under 300 hours) to fly Citation Jets, King Airs, and Citation Excels. I know of at least one FO that is leaving soon. Not sure if they will hire to replace or just keep the FO list at the current number once he leaves.

I can ask and find out, but there are plenty of operators that never advertise job openings that would hire someone with less than 500 hours. You either need to know someone or do a lot of research.

I have used two successful methods of finding companies that hire but dont advertise.

1) Download the Part 135 list of Operators off Google. It has all of the part 135 operators. I then google the name of the company I find in the area I want to live to see if they have a website and then find an email address to contact and go from there.

2) Target a specific area or airport you want to live/fly out of and look at the arrivals and departures on flightaware. Eventually you will notice the same tail numbers flying in and you can find out who owns the airplane or which company it is registered to. Then just follow the last sentence of method 1.

Some people might think it is "stalkerish" but I can personally say that I received a job offer recently due to this tactic and impressed the interviewer with my persistence.

The jobs you see advertised on APC are great, but they are just the very tip of the iceberg.


Good Luck in your search!

Whats the name of your company? and where in NC is it? I'm originally from SC and would like to move back to the area.

peaches 05-07-2018 05:28 PM


Originally Posted by ClemsonPilot (Post 2588318)
Whats the name of your company? and where in NC is it? I'm originally from SC and would like to move back to the area.

Just Pm’ed you

deftone 05-08-2018 05:51 PM


Originally Posted by 155mm (Post 2587434)
No......unless its "Parker pen time". If you are worried about your time building being questioned/scrutinized, file, open and close a flight plan so it's on the record.

Thats what I was worried about, dont want to make anyone suspicious about flying 10hrs every single weekend for example. Its got to the point where I make sure I change up the pen I use frequently so it doesnt look pencil whipped:D


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