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IrishFlyer757 01-17-2010 04:58 PM

Phoenix Area CFI Jobs
 
Does anyone know good leads to follow in order to find a CFI job in the PHX area? Is google the best place to find flight schools, etc?

crewdawg 01-17-2010 05:24 PM

I would reccomend going to each of them with a resume in hand. Nothing beats good ole' face time! Seriously, I think you will get better results if you show up in person.

If you can get away, I would check down in Tucson as well. There seemed to be alot of flight training going on down there.

Airnav.com might not be a bad place to check.

IrishFlyer757 01-18-2010 04:41 AM

Thanks for the advice. I am in a bit of a hard place since I am living in MN right now. Maybe I should just take a week and head down there to investigate.

crewdawg 01-18-2010 06:44 AM


Originally Posted by IrishFlyer757 (Post 746149)
Thanks for the advice. I am in a bit of a hard place since I am living in MN right now. Maybe I should just take a week and head down there to investigate.

I hear ya man, when I was instructing, I lived even farther away and was in your same situation (no money and a crappy job). There were a few of us who sent out apps to a few places out there and one actually went out there and walked his resume. He got a job on the spot and none of us even got a call. He did call ahead to make sure some were even hiring. In the end it was worth it for him, he was getting 80-100 hours and months and we were still getting 40 if we were lucky.

It's also getting that time of year to be thinking about banners tow operations. There are a few operator in Hollywood, FL (HWO). Aerial Banners and Van Wagners. The pay seemed pretty dang good at Van Wagners and lots of flight time in a hurry. Just an option! Just be careful and choose your operation wisely, there quite a few shadeballs out there.

Goodluck bro, it's rough but it will get better!

IrishFlyer757 01-18-2010 07:32 AM

Thanks for the advice. I am looking at a couple different options. I have a really good paying job now, don't even ask why I am looking at becoming a pilot. Go from $65K and an easy sales gig to scraping buy to fly... its insanity. I may be down there in March and I have some good leads.

jeepthrills 01-18-2010 08:54 AM

trans-pac (former Pan-am) is looking for CFI's. But you must have CFII and MEII. Decent pay, paid vacation, benefits etc.

JumpSeater 01-18-2010 09:41 AM

I would try Westwind (which used to be part of Pan Am a long, long time ago) across the parking lot from TransPac. There are also flight schools at Glendale, Scottsdale, and Williams Gateway which have occaisionally posted for CFIs. I would try one of those first.

If it were still Pan Am, I would say go for it. Now that it is TransPac, I would not touch it with a ten foot pole. In my opinion you would be risking your ticket with each student. Anyone in management who was of any worth or value to the place it once was has since left or been fired. I am sorry to say that the good old days of Pan Am have long since gone, in my opinion.

snippercr 01-18-2010 09:42 AM


Originally Posted by jeepthrills (Post 746262)
trans-pac (former Pan-am) is looking for CFI's. But you must have CFII and MEII. Decent pay, paid vacation, benefits etc.

The website also lists have 200 dual given although that's been there for a while. It's also listed as "ideal" so I wonder if you can get in with less. I have around 120 dual given and might apply.

Roost 01-18-2010 07:01 PM

www.atca.com

www.aerobatics.com

JSDL 01-18-2010 08:11 PM

Sebena(spelling?) was at Falcon field and Luftansia(spelling??) was over at Goodyear both pay well. Don't know if they're hiring. ATP is at Williams Gateway when they are busy you will fly alot but times are tough for flight schools right now.

There is a place down in Nogales that flies alot but you are a longs ways from anything.

jeepthrills 01-20-2010 01:41 PM

I dont know about anyone else...but Trans Pac is hiring for sure.

IrishFlyer757 01-20-2010 01:59 PM


Originally Posted by jeepthrills (Post 747922)
I dont know about anyone else...but Trans Pac is hiring for sure.


Talked to a person at Transpac and they are hiring and expanding. They start at $30K a year and then have incentives for passing your students on the first go-around, etc. Anyone have any idea how much those incentives could end up being?

JumpSeater 01-21-2010 08:18 AM


Originally Posted by IrishFlyer757 (Post 747943)
Talked to a person at Transpac and they are hiring and expanding. They start at $30K a year and then have incentives for passing your students on the first go-around, etc. Anyone have any idea how much those incentives could end up being?

Don't worry about incentives. None of your students will pass the first time, hence why they are offering incentives. Then you get to explain to the FAA why your pass rate is so low and try to keep your ticket. Take a look at some of the other flight schools in the area. WFFF, also has CFI positions listed routinely.

FlyingPirate 01-21-2010 08:40 AM


Originally Posted by JumpSeater (Post 748490)
Don't worry about incentives. None of your students will pass the first time, hence why they are offering incentives. Then you get to explain to the FAA why your pass rate is so low and try to keep your ticket. Take a look at some of the other flight schools in the area. WFFF, also has CFI positions listed routinely.


What is WFFF? I just got a call from Transpac.

JumpSeater 01-21-2010 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by FlyingPirate (Post 748503)
What is WFFF? I just got a call from Transpac.

Will Fly For Food.com.

jeepthrills 01-21-2010 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by FlyingPirate http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/im...s/viewpost.gif
What is WFFF? I just got a call from Transpac
You trying to move back to PHX?

FlyingPirate 01-21-2010 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by jeepthrills (Post 748835)
You trying to move back to PHX?

Of course!! I miss the 360 days of VFR. I will only do it if they let me utilize my MEI quickly. You know anyone who works there?

Illini 01-22-2010 08:29 AM


Originally Posted by FlyingPirate (Post 748871)
I will only do it if they let me utilize my MEI quickly.

You'll get multi time when your PPL's finish IR training.

IrishFlyer757 01-22-2010 05:40 PM


Originally Posted by Illini (Post 749266)
You'll get multi time when your PPL's finish IR training.


At Lufthansa you will?

Illini 01-23-2010 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by IrishFlyer757 (Post 749575)
At Lufthansa you will?

Transpac

There is no multi time at Lufthansa. It's all in a Bonanza their PPL and IR and then off to Citation simulator. They take their multi ride in it.

152SIC 01-24-2010 01:00 PM

Is Lufthansa also looking for CFIs? Or Sabena for that matter?

Der Meister 01-24-2010 06:59 PM

I have been looking in PHX for some time. if you find anything let me know as well. I know transpac for sure is but from what I know its CFI/II/MEI 200 dual given.

zondaracer 01-28-2010 04:34 PM


Originally Posted by JumpSeater (Post 748490)
Don't worry about incentives. None of your students will pass the first time, hence why they are offering incentives. Then you get to explain to the FAA why your pass rate is so low and try to keep your ticket. Take a look at some of the other flight schools in the area. WFFF, also has CFI positions listed routinely.

There was just a crash at DVT. I think it was TransPac. RIP
http://www.abc15.com/news/local/stor...eu71c0D3A.cspx

It was N293PA

FlyingPirate 01-28-2010 04:47 PM

jumpseater,

did you work for TransPac? or know anyone who did or does? I talked to them and it seems like a good place to work with good pay and benefits. I'm interviewing next week if anyone can give me some advice.

zondaracer 01-28-2010 08:46 PM


Originally Posted by FlyingPirate (Post 753303)
jumpseater,

did you work for TransPac? or know anyone who did or does? I talked to them and it seems like a good place to work with good pay and benefits. I'm interviewing next week if anyone can give me some advice.

No, i just flew up to DVT a couple weeks ago and saw all the TransPac planes there. And then i saw the news this morning, sadly.

JumpSeater 01-29-2010 10:12 AM

I worked there when it was Pan Am International Flight Academy, not TransPac, thankfully. Like I mentioned earlier, in my opinion, it used to be a good place which has since deteriorated. People used to be hourly, but they changed to salary to get more hours for less from the employees. Everyone I worked with has since left or been fired (to lower cost) and I personally would not choose to work for the current managment. Even the mechanics were fired for making too much and these guys were far overqualified for their pay (ex-mil.). What I have heard of late is from people who still know instructors there... essentially that management is incompetent and they treat the employees poorly. This did not used to be the case, but times change. Currently TransPac relies on the Chinese cash cow. When that goes away, so will TransPac, but by then, it will probably be sold again. Obviously you need to make your own choice given your circumstances. As long as you do not have high expections with bonuses and the such, you won't be disappointed. I am just glad I don't have to take that step. Westwind, which actually was Pan Am until they split (shows you how long ago it was for me) is also across the parking lot, but I do not know if they are hiring. Check the other schools in the area so as to not put all your eggs in one basket. With this recent crash, I imagine the FAA will take a closer look into TransPac operations and I will not be surprised if they find discrepancies. I am actually surprised these accidents do not happen more often which I suppose lends some credit to their current instructors. Just remember, you risk your CFI ticket with every student you send up. Some students are a much higher risk than others. Especially if their English is poor and if the first vehicle they have operated is the plane you are teaching them in. Don't know if this helps any, but best of luck nonetheless.

kmiller1120 02-22-2010 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by 152SIC (Post 750464)
Is Lufthansa also looking for CFIs? Or Sabena for that matter?

Just called Lufthansa this morning and asked if there would be any turnaround in the near future and he said "ya it just turned around and now were looking at downsizing and outsourcing".

Well, so much for that prospect.

Bons 02-23-2010 09:46 AM

PM Sent . . .

Bons 02-23-2010 09:52 AM


Originally Posted by IrishFlyer757 (Post 745982)
Does anyone know good leads to follow in order to find a CFI job in the PHX area? Is google the best place to find flight schools, etc?

PM sent . .

Der Meister 03-04-2010 08:40 PM

Bons you have a lead?

AZCFI86 03-24-2010 06:56 PM

TransPac
 
TransPac is a great place to instruct. As a line IP you can log as many hours as you want (there are always extra flights that need to be covered). Also, you get paid well above the national average which is salary pluse a great bonus structure. Along with that you will be in the multi w/in 8 months of starting, it is not like other schools where ony the most senior IP's get to fly the twin. As far as managment goes we have a very dedicated group of individuals that make sure any new instructor has all the recources and advise required to be sucessfull. Last if you work hard for them they will work hard for you. For example all cfis have the opportuity to go through the ACE (CRJ jet transition) course free of cost. Management is dedicated to see the IP's have the best chance possibe to advance there career.

If you are a good cfi and put 100% effort into your job it is easy to maintain a high checkride pass rate. Our students do provide alot of challenges, but for the most part they are very smart, very dedicated, and if given a task they will complete it.

Fedex Dreamer 12-15-2010 06:59 AM


Originally Posted by AZCFI86 (Post 783521)
TransPac is a great place to instruct. As a line IP you can log as many hours as you want (there are always extra flights that need to be covered). Also, you get paid well above the national average which is salary pluse a great bonus structure. Along with that you will be in the multi w/in 8 months of starting, it is not like other schools where ony the most senior IP's get to fly the twin. As far as managment goes we have a very dedicated group of individuals that make sure any new instructor has all the recources and advise required to be sucessfull. Last if you work hard for them they will work hard for you. For example all cfis have the opportuity to go through the ACE (CRJ jet transition) course free of cost. Management is dedicated to see the IP's have the best chance possibe to advance there career.

If you are a good cfi and put 100% effort into your job it is easy to maintain a high checkride pass rate. Our students do provide alot of challenges, but for the most part they are very smart, very dedicated, and if given a task they will complete it.

What is the instructor schedule like at TransPac? Do you have to work 7 days a week like many of the other academies? Do you have flexibility or are you at the mercy of scheduling? What is the average day like?


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