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AtlCSIP 02-06-2010 06:13 PM

Jumpers
 
I have dropped jumpers in a Turbo 207 and a Twin Otter. Not a lot of time with either, but it is a blast. The drop zone is a little far from my house, and I have other flying gigs, so I don't get to do it as much as I would like. We are northwest of Atlanta. 2 minute call, 1 minute call and jumpers away on both approach and unicom. Unicom is more detailed.

I don't jump yet. Never really wanted to until I started dropping meat missles, but I am intrigued now. Maybe this summer.

USMCFLYR 02-06-2010 06:26 PM


Originally Posted by AtlCSIP (Post 759333)
I have dropped jumpers in a Turbo 207 and a Twin Otter. Not a lot of time with either, but it is a blast. The drop zone is a little far from my house, and I have other flying gigs, so I don't get to do it as much as I would like. We are northwest of Atlanta. 2 minute call, 1 minute call and jumpers away on both approach and unicom. Unicom is more detailed.

I don't jump yet. Never really wanted to until I started dropping meat missles, but I am intrigued now. Maybe this summer.

I didn't get to jump myself either. First - I wanted that $10/load. Second - I was only months away going to OCS and didn't want to take the risk of straining or breaking anything :eek: It was good while it lasted though and the atmosphere around the school was a good time.

USMCFLYR

USMCFLYR 02-06-2010 06:29 PM


Originally Posted by rickt86 (Post 759290)
Theres always someone that needs that extra radio call, not either dropzone i have been at specifically, but I have been under canopy and had someone overfly the field next to me, its scary, esp since u cant get away from it under canopy

We've had some close calls with the Brits and others in the DZs around El Centro. I also had a squadronmate get a little too close to a flight of CH-46s with SPIE riggers on the string. One of them happen to be the BLT Commanding Officer :eek: No more airfield attacks after that :(

USMCFLYR

lakehouse 02-06-2010 07:03 PM


Originally Posted by jrutt (Post 759322)
right on ya my man. flying jumpers is the best kept secret to building time in this biz. i started the same way u did and loved it.
communication is the key, jumpers and jump pilots get a pretty bad wrap sometime. and just a little explaining goes a long way. if ya ever have a rainy day and the parties not on at the DZ head on over to ur local tracon or app control and say hello and if the dzo is cool with it some free or discounted jumps(tandems or static line). i made my first jump before i ever flew them and am addicted to no end. knees in the breeze. keep smiling and enjoying they early days of ur career u will look back on them with envy and fondness. PS jumpers can be a pain in the ass sometimes and u have to watch out for uor ticket no one else will, but it sure beats working in a factory

How come you stopped? What did you make? I love to so much man, if I could make 25K+ flying a turbine, I could easily do this for quite some time, I am getting super sucked into jumping, the scene, and the dropzone, I will be sad to let it go! I got a audio line in on my audio panel, and get to fly for 20 min with a takeoff/landing, and a few new faces each load, I can not imagine better flying.

jrutt 02-06-2010 08:37 PM

i got busy the last couple of years flying floats and living in alaska so jumping kind of went to the back burner. but my last jump was a 8 way wing suit formation so that rocked, and im getting my rigs repacked for this up coming summer want to hit some dz's around my new home and get back to it. frankly i got burned out, 2004 i did 800 skydive. a break was needed. base jumping got a hold of me and really want to go huck some high cliffs. never enough time

lakehouse 02-06-2010 09:21 PM


Originally Posted by jrutt (Post 759393)
i got busy the last couple of years flying floats and living in alaska so jumping kind of went to the back burner. but my last jump was a 8 way wing suit formation so that rocked, and im getting my rigs repacked for this up coming summer want to hit some dz's around my new home and get back to it. frankly i got burned out, 2004 i did 800 skydive. a break was needed. base jumping got a hold of me and really want to go huck some high cliffs. never enough time


where you livin now?

Twin Wasp 02-06-2010 10:51 PM

Start of the day have a couple people show you their packing slip for their reserve chute, you are responsible. Sort of a mini ramp check. Plus nothing gets your heart racing like when you turn final and see an ambulance headed midfield.

jrutt 02-07-2010 08:36 AM

i live in big rapids michigan right now. i would not recommend checking reserve packing card it makes u look like a douche. the dzo should be taking care of that, and at some time in this carrer u have to be able to trust the people u work with that they are doing ther job. but always use the trust with verification method. if u dont trust the dzo to do it then ya i would ask jumpers, because as twin wasp says its your ticket. we do tend to operate on the edges of what most would consider rational. legal is grey area. ther is the letter of the law and the spirit of the law. as far as ambulances death and injury are an inherent part of the sport ther are plenty of warnings before u go
jump out of a perfectly good airplane, it aint for everyone. i personally have 5 fatalities out of my airplane, guess that makes me an ace, viva la sportdeath.

lakehouse 02-07-2010 08:02 PM

Ive seen over 2500 tandems, over 4000 jumps in my time in the sport, not me personally doing them, but been either flying or working on the ground, worst ive seen is a broken leg and sprained ankle, both from Students, i flew the ankle. I will not work around an unsafe place, but I do accept the risk when I jump, and know its there each load I fly. USPA just put out that 2009 was the safest year in a long time with close to 3 million jumps and I think 17 or 19 deaths, which is amazing, most of those where either canopy raps during CREW, ie formation flying.....and experienced jumpers doing something they should not have done. It has risks, but as we saw last year, being heads up can cut the risk down a ton!

The hardest part of flying jumper for me has been dealing with local pilots, guys that ignore a unicom and fly right through a dropzone, and other locals who can not accept jump ops and have had a twin otter bomb down on the runway in front of them. I fly a 182 I try to make everyone happy, but I have caught my share of flack from local weekend warriors. Today I had a nice incursion with a hot headed guy with an anger problem, my DZO had to call the cops to put our plane away. Got mad about a busy pattern with some ultra lights and him. If you fly jumpers you would understand this from our end. I never put myself in a situation on my descent that I could not safely make the runway. PERIOD!


Originally Posted by jrutt (Post 759586)
i live in big rapids michigan right now. i would not recommend checking reserve packing card it makes u look like a douche. the dzo should be taking care of that, and at some time in this carrer u have to be able to trust the people u work with that they are doing ther job. but always use the trust with verification method. if u dont trust the dzo to do it then ya i would ask jumpers, because as twin wasp says its your ticket. we do tend to operate on the edges of what most would consider rational. legal is grey area. ther is the letter of the law and the spirit of the law. as far as ambulances death and injury are an inherent part of the sport ther are plenty of warnings before u go
jump out of a perfectly good airplane, it aint for everyone. i personally have 5 fatalities out of my airplane, guess that makes me an ace, viva la sportdeath.


jrutt 02-08-2010 04:03 PM

ther is always going to be hot heads out ther, sometimes u can explain thing so them sometimes u cant. try and take local pilots on a load with u and show them the ops. u have to lead some by the hand and explain explain explain. the dz pilot, has to be the mediator. it helps if ya have some neutral ground to talk to them. most think jump ops is just a bunch of crazyness. and they have to be shown it is not.


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