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02-11-2011 | 11:38 AM
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IIRC, CFII can technically instruct (instrument only) in category, as long as s/he has a commercial multi. Legal is one thing, though, and qualified is another.
I'm personally not a fan of these safety pilot / PIC "schemes", and I expect a lot of interviewers aren't either. You have to do what you have to do, but there are always consequences - especially for short cuts. Y'all be careful out there ...
02-11-2011 | 01:55 PM
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02-11-2011 | 02:38 PM
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Did the regulation change backwards? For instance, lets say you get your MEI as initial then you get your II. Can you teach instruments to a private pilot in a 172?
02-11-2011 | 03:28 PM
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I haven't seen that ruling, obviously. I do know a fellow who got his CFII (helicopter) added to his CFI certificate - before he got the CFI helicopter. He could - technically - give instrument instruction in helicopters. This was ten or twelve years ago, though. Lately the chief counsel has been all over the map, with overly restrictive rulings in some cases, and very loose ones (like safety pilot PIC) in others.
I'm sure there have been people hired, but I doubt safety pilot time was a big factor. 2800tt, 200me, with 172 hours of it as SP probably doesn't do much. If it gets you over the hump for a rating - or in the front door - then more power to you.
Originally Posted by rickair7777
but plenty of folks have gotten hired with SP time. You're better off with a 135 or MEI twin time, but SP time is better than 2800 TT and 28 ME
02-11-2011 | 03:49 PM
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Here's 61.195 b and c ...
Some of this verbiage was added three or so years ago, IIRC. It's still clear as mud (there is no "class" instrument rating - for airplanes anyway), but there's less wiggle room for "same category". B prohibits any flight training "off class", but then C mentions instrument training - which might be differentiated from flight training. I'll bet the FAA's ruling made B limiting, but like I said I haven't seen it. Got a link, anyone?
(b) Aircraft Ratings. A flight instructor may not conduct flight training in any aircraft for which the flight instructor does not hold:
(1) A pilot certificate and flight instructor certificate with the applicable category and class rating; and
(2) If appropriate, a type rating.
(c) Instrument Rating. A flight instructor who provides instrument training for the issuance of an instrument rating, a type rating not limited to VFR, or the instrument training required for commercial pilot and airline transport pilot certificates must hold an instrument rating on his or her pilot certificate and flight instructor certificate that is appropriate to the category and class of aircraft used for the training provided.
(1) A pilot certificate and flight instructor certificate with the applicable category and class rating; and
(2) If appropriate, a type rating.
(c) Instrument Rating. A flight instructor who provides instrument training for the issuance of an instrument rating, a type rating not limited to VFR, or the instrument training required for commercial pilot and airline transport pilot certificates must hold an instrument rating on his or her pilot certificate and flight instructor certificate that is appropriate to the category and class of aircraft used for the training provided.
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02-11-2011 | 07:12 PM
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You do not need and MEI to instruct in a twin ..... If you are a CFII you can tech Instruments and Instruments ONLY in a twin . I just did my MEI and that question came up in the oral .
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02-11-2011 | 08:58 PM
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You do not need and MEI to instruct in a twin ..... If you are a CFII you can tech Instruments and Instruments ONLY in a twin . I just did my MEI and that question came up in the oral .
Here's the memo...
http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/.../Grayson-2.pdf
02-12-2011 | 02:59 AM
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We note that FAA Order 8900.1, 5-503, which you referenced in your letter, is inconsistent with the current regulation.
Good link. Thank you.
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02-12-2011 | 05:10 AM
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Old tribal knowledge, it was changed last year and apparently not everyone got the memo. Actually I think the FAR was changed several years ago but the FAA had to issue a legal opinion to clarify what 61.195 now says.
Here's the memo...
http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/.../Grayson-2.pdf
Here's the memo...
http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/.../Grayson-2.pdf
02-12-2011 | 11:11 AM
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Huh? Things that are against the regs that you think are petty? If it is in the regs, it doesn't matter how stupid you think the rules are, they are still against the regs.
And I thought a look at your logbook was a given....
Edit: What on earth have you been doing that you've been ramp checked three times?? I can't say I personally know anyone who has been ramp checked, especially with your time.
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