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Old 02-21-2012, 12:09 PM
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Hey guys, I have 300TT and a CE-525S type rating (knew the right people) and am looking for job opportunities. I am currently in the Socal area but am willing to relocate. Any ideas?
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Old 02-21-2012, 12:23 PM
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You're 100% uninsurable in a Citation. Build time instructing or something else to get some real experience, then you can look for an entry level right seat job at a corporate, cargo, or airline gig like everyone else. Don't expect bonus points because you have the type.

Having a type with 300TT is a waste of money for whoever paid.

FWIW, I got a King Air type with around 1000TT and several hundred multi and some turbine and insurance still would have been through the roof on an E90 under P91.
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Old 02-21-2012, 12:27 PM
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Maybe throw your resume and name out there at a lot of places for possible contract gigs in the right seat.
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Old 02-21-2012, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Lindenberg View Post
Hey guys, I have 300TT and a CE-525S type rating (knew the right people) and am looking for job opportunities. I am currently in the Socal area but am willing to relocate. Any ideas?
Where are these "right people" who paid for your type now?
Why would someone (individual or company) spend money of typing a pilot with 300 hours and then not use him/her? Can you provide some additional specifics about your situation.

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Old 02-21-2012, 12:42 PM
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I currently have a right seat contract gig but it doesn't provide a lot of time. I was just curious if there were any other right seat jobs that provided more hours. Thanks for the input guys!
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I'd sit tight where you are now as it seems you have your foot through the door. They must think pretty highly of you to pay for your type with such low hours. The last thing you want to do is burn that bridge trying to relocate for quicker hours (that may or may not pan out). If you don't have your CFI's yet. Get them, and build time the old fashioned way while keeping your foot in the door with your benefactor.

just my tarnished pennies.
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Old 02-21-2012, 05:11 PM
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First off, congrats on the type...it is valuable as there are thousands of CJs in existence with 3 soon to be 4 models in production.

I am curious where you got an "S" type with just 300 hours; I know for a fact FlightSafety won't do that.

As for jobs...your type rating is mostly useless to you right now. What it does show a potential employer is you are a low risk for a training failure...not a small check in your favor. It will help unlock doors down the road - but for now you need TT as quickly as possible.

If you're in SoCal, call up the guys at JetAVIVA and get their take...I've met Ben & Cyrus and they're good guys, and went to college with Matt.
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Old 02-21-2012, 07:39 PM
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First .... remember -- free advice is worth what you pay for it!

Although it's pretty cool that you were able to get a type with only 300 hours, you still only have 300 hours. I don't mean that in a bad way .... because at some point, we all were there.

As previously mentioned, you could through yourself out to the contract market and try to build time that route, but .... I don't recommend it. You won't learn anything. It might be "cooler" to get out of a jet on the ramp instead of a 172 or Seminole, but ... you'd be little more than a seat filler.

Instruct! ... singles and twins (if you have an MEI). You'll build time faster and you'll learn in the process. Although multi jet time is good to have in your log book, that will come. With 300TT it's more prudent to build the foundation and there are fewer better ways to do that than instructing. Good for you that it's not a bad market right now for flight instructors.

Whatever pans out for you, I wish you the best of luck!
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Old 02-26-2012, 07:11 AM
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"As previously mentioned, you could through yourself out to the contract market .... "

Glad I wasn't an English major as an undergraduate!

Please mentally insert "throw" for "through" in the above post! It is probably an age thing!
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The best thing for you to do at this point is to keep with your current company. I was in your position a few years ago and was lucky enough to landing a spot flying Lear's and other biz jets. Build the Multi Jet time ASAP. The last thing is, don't let anyone ever give you a hard time and tell you that your time is to low or tell you that your are "uninsurable." I work with the insurance companies all the time. If a company wants a pilot to fly for them, then there is a way to become "insurable." FlightSafety and CAE will not only SIC type, but will PIC type if the company can back a pilot being able to pass the checkride. I was SIC at CAE with 800TT and PIC type with 1300TT. FlightSafety PIC typed my best friend on the G-IV/V with only 1,000TT. For all of you who said it can't be done, read the Regs.
Do what you can to build quality time, even if that means instructing part time as will. This job is all about who you know and being in the right place at the right time.
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