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chritz1179 08-27-2012 03:42 AM

Need 33hrs Multi.
 
Ok so went to the recent job fair up in Boston talked with everyone there pretty much. 2 Companies could and would take me with only my 67hrs of multi and the two others that I would prefer to go with said get 33 more hour and call me btw they gave me personal emails and numbers not the generic recruiting emails. Any thoughts from anyone out there. oh, 1375TT ATP written done. WWYD?

ImperialxRat 08-27-2012 04:20 AM

Not enough info

chritz1179 08-27-2012 04:33 AM

not sure what more info you want. the 2 airlines that want the 33hrs i would prefer and only 1 of the other 2 i would consider given a job offer. I dont want to miss out on the hiring spree or a decent seniority number idk im dont have much 121 knowledge this is my first step into the regionals. really any thoughts or comments. do i hustle to get the 33hrs or take the first offer i get? ive been a 91 contract pilot for the past 2yrs ive made some calls to see whats out there multi time wise.

DirectTo 08-27-2012 05:29 AM

What he's saying is we can't give you any decent advice with what you gave us.

What two companies WILL take you without them? Decent places? Then you may as well go for them.

If those options are crap, or one of the ones that wants 100 multi is much better for you (no commute, etc.) then bite the bullet and find the other 33 hours.

porqueno 08-27-2012 05:51 AM

go to one of the companies to get 33 hours and leave

USMCFLYR 08-27-2012 06:02 AM


Originally Posted by porqueno (Post 1252055)
go to one of the companies to get 33 hours and leave

And people wonder why some companies institute training contracts.

USMCFLYR

porqueno 08-27-2012 06:45 AM


Originally Posted by USMCFLYR (Post 1252061)
And people wonder why some companies institute training contracts.

USMCFLYR

It is true, but it is the nature of the industry, most places that have training contracts are not reputable carriers and if they made their airlines a better place than maybe they would not need the contracts.

jumpseat2024 08-27-2012 06:52 AM

I think we all just want to know if this is going to turn into a g*j*ts thread

USMCFLYR 08-27-2012 06:54 AM


Originally Posted by porqueno (Post 1252078)
It is true, but it is the nature of the industry, most places that have training contracts are not reputable carriers and if they made their airlines a better place than maybe they would not need the contracts.

This "nature of the industry" is what drives such.
Small companies, operating on a string of a budget for whatever reason, spends XXX amount of money to train a guy. Said employee leaves after the small company a short stint (33 hours of time in the above example) and loses training investment. Of course the company needs to hire another and risk the same investment return. I'm sure if you were in charge of the financial health you wouldn't mind this cycle? that money lost COULD go to better maintain the airplanes, better benefits, or even a pay raise. Depends on the management team I'm sure and most would probably just line their pcokets, but we'll never find out.

Training contracts apply at other flying opportunities outside of the airlines and many of them are very reputable. My last three jobs now have training contracts and all are reputable.

USMCFLYR

chritz1179 08-27-2012 09:56 AM

Well I can say I'd rather not be one of those kinds of people. Id rather not waist someones time. Things are tough as it is they dont need some person whos there for a quick fix and out the door. I want to go somewhere and stay, learn and progress. I think I will get what I can for the next month and if it adds up to what I need great if not ill reasses from there. I have a vaca planned and paid for from 27th Sep to 10th Oct. I don't want to jump into anything till after but if I have to I will.

KSCessnaDriver 08-27-2012 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by USMCFLYR (Post 1252082)
Training contracts apply at other flying opportunities outside of the airlines and many of them are very reputable. My last three jobs now have training contracts and all are reputable.

USMCFLYR

Exactly. I'm in a flying job that has a training contract, because people is the past did exactly what was described here. Get the training from one company, then bail and go to another.

USMCFLYR 08-27-2012 12:00 PM


Originally Posted by KSCessnaDriver (Post 1252234)
Exactly. I'm in a flying job that has a training contract, because people is the past did exactly what was described here. Get the training from one company, then bail and go to another.

Most on the forum are very pilot centric. If they opened their eyes a little, it is clear that no company providing valuable training could afford the lost in training costs if people were to take advantage of a type rating or even a minimum numbers of hours before bailing. At some level of airlines it would seem that traning contracts might bnot be as required as some other positions. Either they are career destinations OR they have a different approach from a training contract called requirement for PIC hours to advance to the next level.

USMCFLYR

AtlCSIP 08-27-2012 03:25 PM

As far as whether or not you should take one of the 2 jobs, or try for one of 2 others in 33 hours really depends on which companies you would work for. If you take a job now, expect to keep it for at least a year. In my opinion, that would be the right thing to do. It took me a couple of years to build the first 100 hours of multi engine time, so taking one of the first two might be the best way to go in the long run, depending on who it is with. The hiring prospects will be very different in a year or two, and you will have many more options then as long as you choose wisely now.

Red Forman 08-27-2012 08:23 PM


Originally Posted by chritz1179 (Post 1252022)
not sure what more info you want. the 2 airlines that want the 33hrs i would prefer and only 1 of the other 2 i would consider given a job offer. I dont want to miss out on the hiring spree or a decent seniority number idk im dont have much 121 knowledge this is my first step into the regionals. really any thoughts or comments. do i hustle to get the 33hrs or take the first offer i get? ive been a 91 contract pilot for the past 2yrs ive made some calls to see whats out there multi time wise.

work on you're engrish b4 u gets the 33 hrs

chritz1179 08-28-2012 02:38 AM

This is a online forum not an interview or English class. Mies anglish be just fine. Lol

Red Forman 08-28-2012 09:48 AM


Originally Posted by chritz1179 (Post 1252534)
This is a online forum not an interview or English class. Mies anglish be just fine. Lol

If you want to make yourself look like an idiot in public, have at it. I am always amused when people say this is just an online forum and not an English class. Do you have that same attitude when talking to people or during a job interview? Becaue those places are not an English class either.

SenecaII 08-28-2012 02:05 PM


Originally Posted by chritz1179 (Post 1252191)
Well I can say I'd rather not be one of those kinds of people. Id rather not waist someones time. Things are tough as it is they dont need some person whos there for a quick fix and out the door. I want to go somewhere and stay, learn and progress. I think I will get what I can for the next month and if it adds up to what I need great if not ill reasses from there. I have a vaca planned and paid for from 27th Sep to 10th Oct. I don't want to jump into anything till after but if I have to I will.


Are you not an MEI. No one you can split some time with in a dutchess or seminole???

Swedish Blender 08-30-2012 06:19 AM

Let me get this straight. You're trying to decide wether or not to pass on 2 companies you haven't interviewed or received a job offer at in order to get 33 more hours of multi to try and interview at 2 other companies. An interview and job offer might help your decision.

chritz1179 08-30-2012 07:47 AM

You're right Swedish just got a call from TSA to interview but I'm still going for my ever elusive 33hrs of multi. I never got my mei because there wasn't a multi within an hour or two and non for instruction. But either way. If anyone has any info on TSA let me know.

ifly 08-31-2012 05:22 PM

I'll advise you not to go waste that money on getting the multi unless the money is not an issue for you but if it wasn't you wouldn't have started this thread. Just imagine spending all that money to get the 33hrs of multi and within weeks the airlines drop the mins from 100 to 50 multi. I'm not saying it'll happen but I've seen it happen many times before. Just go with whoever gives you an interview and a job offer. Once you have the experience and still want to try the other 2 airlines then apply with them.

chritz1179 09-01-2012 03:22 AM

Yeah, ifly ur are right. I'll get what I can that doesn't cost which there is a little. I could be patient and wait a little and get my time but we ll see how it all goes by time I get off vaca mid oct.

Swedish Blender 09-01-2012 03:25 PM

At the end of the day, you can't feel bad about taking a job then leaving shortly after if something better comes along. Trust me, they wouldn't have a problem furloughing you.

chritz1179 09-01-2012 07:16 PM

Yeah I get that for sure. I'm hoping to hear from psa this week.

Swedish Blender 09-01-2012 10:15 PM

I hope it works out for you. So there I was...WaikikI Beach having a Mai tai...


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