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Yoda2 06-18-2013 06:23 PM

You know you can fly VFR 135 with 500 and IFR with 1200... You have thrown out some numbers but how much of that is PIC? You are not really in a bargaining position and definitely need to be open to relocation... If you are not, I would think twice about spending any more on additional ratings, Etc.

BeechedJet 06-19-2013 10:12 AM

Jobs won't come to you, you got to go to the jobs. Simple as that. Past employer screwed you around? Use that experience to find the next job and use the contacts you've built along the way.

rcfd13 06-19-2013 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by Brandon15666 (Post 1430467)
Relocating is pretty much out of the question, I don't mind being gone for a few months but can't relocate.

There's your problem



Originally Posted by Brandon15666 (Post 1430467)
I do not have my CFI

There's another problem.

If you're not willing to relocate then you're not going to do well in Aviation. I relocated for three years as a CFI building hours, then I spent a year and a half commuting across the country at the regionals. As much as relocating sucked commuting sucked a lot more. I could have been 100+ seniority numbers higher if I had relocated earlier instead of waiting around feeling sorry for myself.

I'm not sure you'll get much sympathy on here saying that you're unwilling to relocate and are frustrated with your position in aviation. Everyone on this board has either paid their dues or is still currently paying their dues. Mostly the latter.

VanDriver208 06-19-2013 09:08 PM

Brandon,

Have you looked at some Alaska 135 VFR operators? I know you can't "relocate" but you could live up there for a few months, get a few hundred hours, and get on with your career. A few places up there have 2 on 2 off schedules, and I saw today on the Orange website that ACE Air Cargo in Anchorage is taking B1900 FO's with 500 hours. Alaska is a different environment, but lots of guys did their time up there and its really paid off. Just a thought.

AtlCSIP 06-20-2013 01:05 AM

If you don't live in an area with a lot of GA and charter traffic, an are not willing to move, you are going to continue to be frustrated. Places like Orlando and Atlanta have multiple GA airports with high levels of traffic, which offers opportunity. If that isn't your story, and you can't get a banner tow, skydiver, glider puller, CFI gig, then get 3 jobs, buy a cheap Cessna 150, and fly it for 650 hours. Then sell it and go get a job, but you will still probably have to move or commute.

BeardedFlyer 06-22-2013 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by VanDriver208 (Post 1431394)
Brandon,

Have you looked at some Alaska 135 VFR operators? I know you can't "relocate" but you could live up there for a few months, get a few hundred hours, and get on with your career. A few places up there have 2 on 2 off schedules, and I saw today on the Orange website that ACE Air Cargo in Anchorage is taking B1900 FO's with 500 hours. Alaska is a different environment, but lots of guys did their time up there and its really paid off. Just a thought.

Totally agree. I started out dropping skydivers and towing gliders, never got my CFI and got on with a seasonal 135 VFR job up here in April that will run through Sept. I got hired with 830 TT and am already at 1020 which is all cross country (and half of that is over 50NM). I'll be looking to move up to 135 IFR work when I'm done up here, then from there to either air ambulance, charter work or Skywest (only regional I would consider). Hands on flying experience is important to employers up here as well as a great work ethic. Pay is pretty decent up here aswell... about 3k a month where I'm at. Send me a PM if you want any further info.

FSUpilot 06-22-2013 04:31 PM


Originally Posted by BeechedJet (Post 1430068)
I relocated for a Crappy caravan job, you can do it too with the proper budgeting.

I hope it wasn't with Pacific Wings.. and for the OP... don't move to a Pacific Wings job.. you'll regret it.

BeechedJet 06-23-2013 04:27 AM

It isnt Pacwings. I knew some of the people who roughed it out there though and sometimes my gig sure feels like I'm right there with them.

EatMyPropwash 06-23-2013 08:51 AM

Can I ask why you can't move? Family reasons? Financial reasons? Comfort of home reasons? Don't need details, just general topic...

blaine 07-01-2013 06:41 AM


Originally Posted by rcfd13 (Post 1429977)
I was able to get a job almost on the spot at 400 hours when the industry was in a worse place than it is now by being willing to move across the country for it. If you're not getting offers at 850 hours with the regionals almost all hiring then something is wrong. I'm betting what's wrong is that you're not willing to relocate.


The regionals are hiring like crazy, but they wont touch him with 850 hours. You are required by law to have a minimum of 1500 hours to operate for a 121 carrier.


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