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Loveforairp38 03-31-2015 05:34 PM

Caravan PIC time 1200TT
 
Thought I'd throw out an opportunity for someone with basic 135 mins to get some great turbine experience in a great plane. I know this is a "low time forum" but many people come here looking for interim jobs and I feel this is worth looking into if you're up to 1200 TT.
Company is Martinaire based out of Addison(Dallas), TX and I've been positioned at KAVP in northeastern PA. I am moving on to the next job and the position is open. Base pay is 30K with $1500 signing bonus!
PM me if interested!

ASaintBernard 03-31-2015 07:15 PM

Not bad but I think by 135 mins you should be in a multi IMO. I have sub 1000TT with well over 300 208B PIC. So if you want 208 time it can be had at 500 Hrs if you know where to go.

Loveforairp38 03-31-2015 08:09 PM

Very cool! I wish I knew someone that could get me that experience with such times, but it's all about right place/right time or who you know. Agreed that there are plenty of jobs out there but sometimes poeple are looking for "the one" that best suites them for the time being. I loved this job in particular because the hours were 7pm to 8 am with a full nights rest at paid hotel every night.... Consistent pay, sleep/time off, flight time and benifits. Was hard for me to turn down when I got outta aerial mapping with 1300ish hours.

DreFlyer 04-01-2015 10:51 AM


Originally Posted by ASaintBernard (Post 1853782)
So if you want 208 time it can be had at 500 Hrs if you know where to go.

I'm at 550 Hrs right now and cannot find anything that will get me some SIC turbine experience . . . maybe it's because I haven't included Alaska or Hawaii in my search criteria?

ASaintBernard 04-01-2015 03:58 PM


Originally Posted by DreFlyer (Post 1854126)
I'm at 550 Hrs right now and cannot find anything that will get me some SIC turbine experience . . . maybe it's because I haven't included Alaska or Hawaii in my search criteria?

Did you include Arizona ? At the Grand Canyon

FlyJay 04-01-2015 06:35 PM


Originally Posted by ASaintBernard (Post 1854376)
Did you include Arizona ? At the Grand Canyon

More specifically grand canyon airlines:
Home | Grand Canyon Airlines - info
Home - online app

FraxAvi8tor 04-02-2015 09:10 AM


Originally Posted by DreFlyer (Post 1854126)
I'm at 550 Hrs right now and cannot find anything that will get me some SIC turbine experience . . . maybe it's because I haven't included Alaska or Hawaii in my search criteria?

Have you looked at SeaPort? I'd think you'd be overqualified with those hours.

DreFlyer 04-02-2015 10:30 AM

Darn, sure forgot about Arizona! Thanks guys I'll take a look at those leads and get my app in.

Hawaiiavi8er 04-03-2015 04:58 AM

Do not go to mra. Worst career move you could make. Contract is awful, and they that you like crap. Get 300 more hours and go 121. Everyone is hiring. Start building seniority and upgrade. Caravan time is worthless, go get multi jet time.

Hawaiiavi8er 04-03-2015 04:59 AM


Originally Posted by DreFlyer (Post 1854126)
I'm at 550 Hrs right now and cannot find anything that will get me some SIC turbine experience . . . maybe it's because I haven't included Alaska or Hawaii in my search criteria?

Air choice one out of stl.

MR JT8D 04-10-2015 02:35 PM

I see the caravan guys are starting to pony up more money now. No pilot shortage, just a shortage of pay and benefits. Yeah, 5 nights a week loading and unloading the freight, crawling around like a rat..... and they're ALL 30 days contracts with UPS.

Learjet FO 04-13-2015 08:04 PM


Originally Posted by Hawaiiavi8er (Post 1855212)
Do not go to mra. Worst career move you could make. Caravan time is worthless, go get multi jet time.

I could not let this slide. Caravan time is NOT worthless. Its part 135 turbine PIC. I nailed my jet interview describing the experiences I had in this type! (even after being grounded for years afterwards caring for alzheimer's and autism in the family)
I could not have trusted this airplane more. Its the most forgiving, fun, stable, responsive, intuitive, comfortable thing I have ever had the pleasure of flying. I mean you literally feel like its a part of you after a few hours. Do you want to build 135 IFR time and make your first REAL paycheck as a pilot after years of mostly VFR single engine instruction, skydivers, banner towing, surveying, traffic patrol, Civil Air Patrol, etc.
WITH THE LEAST CHANCE OF DYING?
THIS IS YOUR AIRPLANE!!!
Sure, you made simpler decisions in the caravan, but you were in charge, making all the calls (go,no go, alternate courses of action) and calling all the shots, not another guy in the left seat! You dealt with low IFR and areas of thunderstorms, loading, fueling, MELs, ATC, THE CUSTOMER, maintained your company manual, flight logs, and FAA/Jepp charts. You ran your carrier's base at Podunk International (KBFE) 5 days a week.
When you prove you can be a caravan captain, the interviewer knows its just a matter of experience before you can become a captain in whatever it is they fly. Being a first officer is just on the job training. Companies hire CAPTAINS! Be a captain! Multi jet time will come.

Toonces 04-14-2015 09:44 AM

Well said.


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Tippy 04-14-2015 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by FraxAvi8tor (Post 1854727)
Have you looked at SeaPort? I'd think you'd be overqualified with those hours.

they just hired a former student of my schools at 350 ish.
its long hard work for little pay but rack up time real quick!

akIPA 04-14-2015 07:05 PM

Great post Learjet.

NoSidNoStar 04-14-2015 08:50 PM


Originally Posted by Hawaiiavi8er (Post 1855212)
Do not go to mra. Worst career move you could make. Contract is awful, and they that you like crap. Get 300 more hours and go 121. Everyone is hiring. Start building seniority and upgrade. Caravan time is worthless, go get multi jet time.

I like this suggestion better. As far as the Caravan time being useless, I don't know, but different places have different requirements.
Turbine PIC or Multi Engine, all depends what the goal is.
I do remember a pilot having problems moving on, after the company got rid of the Pilatus, because of the lack of multi time.

Hawaiiavi8er 04-26-2015 08:35 PM


Originally Posted by Learjet FO (Post 1861410)
I could not let this slide. Caravan time is NOT worthless. Its part 135 turbine PIC. I nailed my jet interview describing the experiences I had in this type! (even after being grounded for years afterwards caring for alzheimer's and autism in the family)
I could not have trusted this airplane more. Its the most forgiving, fun, stable, responsive, intuitive, comfortable thing I have ever had the pleasure of flying. I mean you literally feel like its a part of you after a few hours. Do you want to build 135 IFR time and make your first REAL paycheck as a pilot after years of mostly VFR single engine instruction, skydivers, banner towing, surveying, traffic patrol, Civil Air Patrol, etc.
WITH THE LEAST CHANCE OF DYING?
THIS IS YOUR AIRPLANE!!!
Sure, you made simpler decisions in the caravan, but you were in charge, making all the calls (go,no go, alternate courses of action) and calling all the shots, not another guy in the left seat! You dealt with low IFR and areas of thunderstorms, loading, fueling, MELs, ATC, THE CUSTOMER, maintained your company manual, flight logs, and FAA/Jepp charts. You ran your carrier's base at Podunk International (KBFE) 5 days a week.
When you prove you can be a caravan captain, the interviewer knows its just a matter of experience before you can become a captain in whatever it is they fly. Being a first officer is just on the job training. Companies hire CAPTAINS! Be a captain! Multi jet time will come.

I never once said that I didn't enjoy the van nor did I say I didn't trust the plane. The Caravan is a 182 on steroids. I was at mra when one of the pilots died, I also was there when there was another guy was injured due to mx , also one week after I quit the plane that was on my route lost an engine and luckily he was fine and was not injured. Mra has a lot of problems. Not to mention they are on the verge of losing their contact in rdu. I have flown 135, 121,and 91 delivering aircraft. 121 is much safer and a lot more challenging. Flying to the same 2 airports in imc is easy after the first month. The only challenging thing is flying into weather that you are forced to fly into because mra will threaten your job if you don't take off. A year of seniority at an airline is worth more than a year at mra. And BTW the captain and the fo make decisions to go when flying 121 that's why it's called crm. The captain just has to sign the paper work.

PSAJOBS 04-29-2015 06:55 AM


Originally Posted by Learjet FO (Post 1861410)
I could not let this slide. Caravan time is NOT worthless. Its part 135 turbine PIC. I nailed my jet interview describing the experiences I had in this type! (even after being grounded for years afterwards caring for alzheimer's and autism in the family)
I could not have trusted this airplane more. Its the most forgiving, fun, stable, responsive, intuitive, comfortable thing I have ever had the pleasure of flying. I mean you literally feel like its a part of you after a few hours. Do you want to build 135 IFR time and make your first REAL paycheck as a pilot after years of mostly VFR single engine instruction, skydivers, banner towing, surveying, traffic patrol, Civil Air Patrol, etc.
WITH THE LEAST CHANCE OF DYING?
THIS IS YOUR AIRPLANE!!!
Sure, you made simpler decisions in the caravan, but you were in charge, making all the calls (go,no go, alternate courses of action) and calling all the shots, not another guy in the left seat! You dealt with low IFR and areas of thunderstorms, loading, fueling, MELs, ATC, THE CUSTOMER, maintained your company manual, flight logs, and FAA/Jepp charts. You ran your carrier's base at Podunk International (KBFE) 5 days a week.
When you prove you can be a caravan captain, the interviewer knows its just a matter of experience before you can become a captain in whatever it is they fly. Being a first officer is just on the job training. Companies hire CAPTAINS! Be a captain! Multi jet time will come.

As someone that has flown 121 and interviewed and hired hundreds of pilots I can tell you I agree with Learjet. Multi time meant nothing to me in an interview. Real IFR time and real decision making. If you come in to an interview with the experience described above, we want you. I would be confidant that person will have no trouble in our training program.

Just my opinion....................

NoSidNoStar 04-29-2015 08:13 AM


Originally Posted by PSAJOBS (Post 1870557)
As someone that has flown 121 and interviewed and hired hundreds of pilots I can tell you I agree with Learjet. Multi time meant nothing to me in an interview. Real IFR time and real decision making. If you come in to an interview with the experience described above, we want you. I would be confidant that person will have no trouble in our training program.

Just my opinion....................

Why? Can't you have the experience described above in a multi engine? As far as multi time meaning nothing to you, like I said, different places, different requirements. One should focus on his final goal and how to get there.

PSAJOBS 04-30-2015 04:36 AM


Originally Posted by NoSidNoStar (Post 1870621)
Why? Can't you have the experience described above in a multi engine? As far as multi time meaning nothing to you, like I said, different places, different requirements. One should focus on his final goal and how to get there.

Of course you can but the vast majority of Piston Multi engine time I have seen in the last couple years have come from flight instructing. We know who is successful in our training program. The data shows us college graduate from an aviation university, 135 time flying turbine equipment as PIC.

Send me as many as you can find. We need hundreds more

MR JT8D 05-06-2015 05:47 PM

Caravan PIC time 1200TT
 

Originally Posted by Hawaiiavi8er (Post 1855212)
Do not go to mra. Worst career move you could make. Contract is awful, and they that you like crap. Get 300 more hours and go 121. Everyone is hiring. Start building seniority and upgrade. Caravan time is worthless, go get multi jet time.

I agree. Stay far, far away!!!!!!

Csy Mon 05-06-2015 06:07 PM

Caravan Captain...?
How about single pilot C-208?

I flew oodles of hours on the C-207s in Alaska, but never mentioned Captain on the resume.

Been assistant Chief Pilot sifting through resumes for my boss, tended to pick the ones being low key.

captjns 05-07-2015 03:13 AM


Originally Posted by Csy Mon (Post 1875183)
Caravan Captain...?
How about single pilot C-208?

I flew oodles of hours on the C-207s in Alaska, but never mentioned Captain on the resume.

Been assistant Chief Pilot sifting through resumes for my boss, tended to pick the ones being low key.

Says right there folks... Low keyed:rolleyes:

NoSidNoStar 05-08-2015 10:15 PM

Caravan, multi engine 135, CFI, regionals... All stepping stones.
If the goal is a Major Airline, just get there the fastest you can, and that is probably going to be the regional route.


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