Young Aviator with funny story
 

So I am pretty young to be a commercial pilot, 19 to be exact. I am looking for some low time pilot jobs like Part 91 corporate or something similar, have experience with 91 flying. Any leads on anything, contacts ANYTHING? preferable based in NC SC area.
500 TT
170 AMEL
AGI & IGI
CFI,CFII,MEI


Funny story from today:
Walked into an interview for a 135 operation, guy looks at me, back at my resume, and then back at me and says "There's no way in hell you have these ratings and hours at your age. I wouldn't hire you simply because of your age." I grabbed my phone and walked straight out. Struggles of being young right?

Sounds like discrimination.

I got the same thing at your age, regularly. By the time I was your age, I'd been flying commercially for a year, spraying crops, as well as flying jumpers, turning wrenches, etc.

You'll run into it over and over, and it's not uncommon. I lost track of the number of passengers in the early years who asked to see my driver license, to verify my age.

You'll get used to it.

Back in the early 90's I left the USA and went to Greece with around 2400TT
Every job I applied to in Greece (at the time the private airline scene was starting with the deregulation laws applied by the EU) was seen with mistrust due to my TT. I was 28 yo at the time and I always ran into retired Greek Airforce Colonels and Majors and Brig Generals who had accumulated 5-6000 hours flying fighters after 25 years in service. As a matter of fact, I was accused by one retired colonel that I was parkering in my flight hours. couldn't have a leg to stand on when I used to whip out my ATP written results and show it to them, resulting in my not being considered further since nobody wanted a smart alec. lol

That guy is a discrimination lawsuit waiting to happen. As a former airport manager with hiring responsibilities, hiring based on age or even asking an applicant his age was a big no no.


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I can't tell you the number of times I was told they were looking for somebody older at interview. It seems like the smaller the company, the more likely they are to ask inappropriate questions at an interview. Keep looking man and good luck!

Senior Mama F/As used to see a new-hire 727 S/O and say: "Aw, how cute. A baby pilot!" :rolleyes:

You cannot discriminate against anyone 40 or older. There is no law against it under 40

Waiting for the funny story

Generally not a good idea to have your phone out in a job interview. Turned off and in your bag is where it belongs, or in your car if you have one.

Most aviation jobs, especially at the level where the original poster considered, are at-will jobs. The employer has no obligation to hire him, or you, or anyone else. Whether the employer elects to hire someone else because he likes their flight times, certification, experience, education, recommendation letters, age, crows feet, or buddy Sam, is irrelevant. It's also their discretion.

Millennials cannot part with their phones...period. They have severe separation anxiety if they can't immediately check their phone every time it beeps, or to Facebook, snapchat, Instagram, tinder, or whatever ridiculous app they have consuming their life.

I'm thinking his resume was ON the phone....:rolleyes:

If indeed such was the case, ncpilot1996, don't do that ever again. In fact, if you interview, shut that phone off and make it go away.

He asked to see a picture from a recent flight an that's why I had it out, forgot to mention that part. We were talking about me flying a C421C single pilot 91 ops and he wanted to see th 421 because he said he was looking at buying one

We were talking about my 91 experience flying a C421C and he said he was looking to buy one and wanted to see the one I was flying and I had laid it in my lap.

Young Aviator with funny story
 

I know the feeling. I used to fly 135 and without fail, at least once a day I would get some passenger thinking they were a smart *** ask me "so, are you old enough to fly?" Over the years I developed my own smart *** responses too if I felt like I could get away with it. Yup, get used to it. You'll be hearing it for at least another 10 years!

The struggle is real
 

I'll be sure to steer well clear of your lawn, sir.

Wow, he obviously thought you were lying to him about your experience. Once he was convinced you were not he should have congratulated you on your accomplishments at such a young age. If he did not want to hire you he should have at least offered career advice and/or told you to come back in a few years.
Good luck and don't give up, your situation will improve. I have been on both sides of this coin. Too young in my previous profession for several years [it used to really **** the old guys off--- that they had to listen to me and negotiate with me and even treat me as an equal :)]

Now I am old enough but with relatively limited experience. Perhaps in a few years we will both have just the right combination--- in the meantime just enjoy each day and try to remember the stories as you will be telling them for years!!

Why should the employer offer anything? The employer is the chooser, not the beggar. He doesn't owe the job applicant anything.

The original poster's story changed; he stated that he walked into the interview, was told that the information on the resume must be false, and then told he didn't stand a chance due to age. Grabbed phone, walked out. He's since told us that the original "funny" story wasn't quite true, and that he spent time chatting with the employer and discussing experience.

Unfortunately, the two versions aren't compatible.

Well I didn't figure you'd want the dialog from my entire time talking. It was a typical interview we started talking general conversation then progressed towards looking at my resume and that was the point where I wrote from. You know what they say about people that assume... It makes an ASS out of U and ME

Hey Grandpa there is no "e" in Tindr.

That's not at all what you said. You very specifically stated that "Walked into an interview for a 135 operation, guy looks at me, back at my resume, and then back at me and says "There's no way in hell you have these ratings and hours at your age. I wouldn't hire you simply because of your age." I grabbed my phone and walked straight out."

Now you tell us that you had a complete conversation before hand, and that you started your story after that conversation and interview occurred. Quite clearly you had a very different story at the outset of this thread. ASSume, you say? No. We go by what you said.

Some counsel: don't walk into a forum, throw around "funny" stories, change them, then address other posters as asses. You don't have the collateral.

If your initial post began after the interview was complete, is it now your position that you left the interview, then walked back in and began your original post? You can't really have it both ways.

It's not a funny story and your credibility is shot. You were offered sympathetic counsel and support. Consider it withdrawn.

If your goal is to be a professional pilot as a career the best thing you can do at this point is complete a college degree. Put the flying on the back burner.

I disagree, however I am in a specialized aviation field that does not generally require degrees.

I started flying commercially when I was 18, and met many of the "I won't hire you because you're young" crowd. I finally got a decent time building gig and the rest was history from there. Keep your chin up youngling, it's only gonna get better.

'Squatch
Who has been there, and done that.

Still waiting for the punchline

Lots of ball bustin' going on in here. Think I'll just mosey back the other direction!

Still presently true, and a fairly universal concept no matter where you go.

Funny story haha one time I interviewed for a pt 91/135 Hawker job. The company managing the plane I flew for before in their jets pt. 91 regularly. I was actually refered by them and the job was mine. All I had to was meet the owner. The owner said thanks but no thanks because I looked too young. It was purely based on perception. Welcome to the corporate world kid. You're 19, it isn't the end of the world. At 500hrs I was one approach to mins in a fast plane from ending up on the news. Take your time and the good job will come.