Piedmont Airlines News & Rumors
07-28-2018, 05:00 PM
#2531
Happy at PDT
Joined APC: Jan 2014
Position: EMB-145 CA
Posts: 983
Originally Posted by GoNova
Really? They had the option to bring this to mediation and didn’t, they thought this would suffice for a majority of the pilot group, and I don’t know how the hell they weren’t drug tested after making that decision. Everyone here saying voting yes for a mild improvement over status quo is delusional. Half the points are basically the same crap just explained in a different way “carry over” = interface known in advance. AND it’s not better then status quo because you forget about the 5 hour until junior man stipulation, so besides 3, 4 maybe 5 turns we can’t do in under 5 hours in the whole system? O yeah great for commuters half of which say they already don’t use both there commuter hotels per month, well now the company can just throw on pretty much any turn they want an unlimited amount of times year round.
07-28-2018, 05:05 PM
#2532
On Reserve
Joined APC: Jul 2018
Posts: 10
Originally Posted by GoNova
Really? They had the option to bring this to mediation and didn’t, they thought this would suffice for a majority of the pilot group, and I don’t know how the hell they weren’t drug tested after making that decision. Everyone here saying voting yes for a mild improvement over status quo is delusional. Half the points are basically the same crap just explained in a different way “carry over” = interface known in advance. AND it’s not better then status quo because you forget about the 5 hour until junior man stipulation, so besides 3, 4 maybe 5 turns we can’t do in under 5 hours in the whole system? O yeah great for commuters half of which say they already don’t use both there commuter hotels per month, well now the company can just throw on pretty much any turn they want an unlimited amount of times year round.
07-28-2018, 05:10 PM
#2533
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2016
Posts: 155
12 Days Off
• Sets a guarantee that 50% of all hard lines will be
built with at least 12 days off.
Can you imagine the Piedmont definition of this?? Sure 50% of the lines would be 12 days off and the other 50% would be 11 days off per month.
Whoopee no more triple premium because we got the staff we need!!
NO
• Sets a guarantee that 50% of all hard lines will be
built with at least 12 days off.
Can you imagine the Piedmont definition of this?? Sure 50% of the lines would be 12 days off and the other 50% would be 11 days off per month.
Whoopee no more triple premium because we got the staff we need!!
NO
07-28-2018, 05:15 PM
#2534
On Reserve
Joined APC: Jul 2018
Posts: 10
Originally Posted by send a check
12 Days Off
• Sets a guarantee that 50% of all hard lines will be
built with at least 12 days off.
Can you imagine the Piedmont definition of this?? Sure 50% of the lines would be 12 days off and the other 50% would be 11 days off per month.
Whoopee no more triple premium because we got the staff we need!!
NO
• Sets a guarantee that 50% of all hard lines will be
built with at least 12 days off.
Can you imagine the Piedmont definition of this?? Sure 50% of the lines would be 12 days off and the other 50% would be 11 days off per month.
Whoopee no more triple premium because we got the staff we need!!
NO
07-28-2018, 05:17 PM
#2535
Happy at PDT
Joined APC: Jan 2014
Position: EMB-145 CA
Posts: 983
Originally Posted by send a check
12 Days Off
• Sets a guarantee that 50% of all hard lines will be
built with at least 12 days off.
Can you imagine the Piedmont definition of this?? Sure 50% of the lines would be 12 days off and the other 50% would be 11 days off per month.
Whoopee no more triple premium because we got the staff we need!!
NO
• Sets a guarantee that 50% of all hard lines will be
built with at least 12 days off.
Can you imagine the Piedmont definition of this?? Sure 50% of the lines would be 12 days off and the other 50% would be 11 days off per month.
Whoopee no more triple premium because we got the staff we need!!
NO
07-28-2018, 05:38 PM
#2538
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2015
Position: Gear slinger
Posts: 2,895
Originally Posted by GoNova
Doesn’t seem either side was in touch with what the pilot group wanted when they made there agreement, negotiators or management, despite them working hard.
07-28-2018, 05:41 PM
#2539
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2015
Position: DHC-8 CA
Posts: 462
Originally Posted by Lvlng4Spd
This is my sentiment. Although there isn't much going for this TA, y'all better respect the work involved. There is a lot of talent on the negotiating committee, excellent talent in fact. We need to realize that the company had little reason to play ball at this point
I don't know what we can legally post to here about specifics, but I can think of 5 things off the top of my head that are just solid NO's for me.
A "no" vote will make its way into the rumor mill, and affect hiring. A yes vote might Jack this place up too, but I'll stick with the devil I know.
07-28-2018, 05:58 PM
#2540
Line Holder
Joined APC: Nov 2014
Posts: 61
Originally Posted by Otterbox
Management looked for cost effective productivity gains to decrease staffing needs and the MEC leadership looked to not rock the boat in order to keep vacation bidding for the longevity folks since none of the TA concessions really affect them. If they really cared about a passing vote they could have kept everything status quo and increase flow to 10/month and the thing would pass by a landslide... actually with a 10/month flow they could probably have cut captain pay by 5% in addition to keeping all the current TA concessions the thing would still pass.
You are being handled by the same group. They are definitely employed by Piedmont right now and they worked this deal. Ask. I guarantee they are.
Scroll to their labor relations tab.
You can fawn over your group of negotiators till the cows come home.
Obviously, they were served by Glass, and you can't come to grips with it.
Face reality. You have way more leverage these days than they do. You just need to recognize it.
Why did the American pilots get an 8% raise completely outside section 6 last year?
Because new hires were walking out the door over to Delta.
A crappy contract hurts you, and your company.
Don't settle for a crappy deal.
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