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Old 07-29-2018, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by havick206 View Post
Nothing taken personally, Envoy management works the LOA’s and contract to their advantage just like they do at PDT as you would expect.

I just find it funny that 99% of the time the guys that jump on here and scream “vote with your feet”, are too chicken**** to do it themselves, in essence just trying to thin out the queue ahead of them as well as try to get management to notice and force improvements.

You said yourself, short of another legacy calling you, you’re not going anywhere.

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Legacy, j blue, ups, and fedex.. I've even considered others... and yes my aps are out with internal recs at all.. I'm trying.. every month that goes by is a month of seniority, good pay and better qol that I'm missing. And that tears me up..
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Old 07-30-2018, 03:40 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyyGuyy View Post
At PSA the people who were eligible to vote in 2013 are basically all gone. We will be flowing the people who were hired after the vote by November or December and we have maybe 40 lifers still on the list. Not many of them left.
Next time I'm at ORD, remind me to mention that fact to the guys about to flow from Envoy after ten years and getting boned by PSA's vote. I'm sure they'll be thrilled to hear your line.
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Old 07-30-2018, 11:21 PM
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As an Envoy guy I hope that you all know that we are behind you in your fight for a better contract. Bringing you up to our abysmal pay rates isn’t good enough. We all deserve to be compensated like the professionals that we are (except the PSA guys who voted yes, the can choke and die).






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Old 07-30-2018, 11:22 PM
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Next time I'm at ORD, remind me to mention that fact to the guys about to flow from Envoy after ten years and getting boned by PSA's vote. I'm sure they'll be thrilled to hear your line.








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Old 07-31-2018, 10:35 AM
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Looks like payroll department is a mess right now.. way to get pilots happy..
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Old 07-31-2018, 11:04 AM
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Looks like payroll department is a mess right now.. way to get pilots happy..
I’ve decided to adopt the same care and attitude of our rampers. Whatever.
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Old 07-31-2018, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyyGuyy View Post
At PSA the people who were eligible to vote in 2013 are basically all gone. We will be flowing the people who were hired after the vote by November or December and we have maybe 40 lifers still on the list. Not many of them left.
Doesn’t matter. Anyone who came to PSA did so either without doing their homework on the past sins of PSA, or because they just don’t care. Neither one is an excuse. The PSA pilots slit the throats of an entire industry and opened the floodgates of management abuse at a time when the regionals were poised to make gains.
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Old 07-31-2018, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by MKUltra View Post
Looks like payroll department is a mess right now.. way to get pilots happy..
Heard pay checks are short....like 20+ hours short.
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Heard pay checks are short....like 20+ hours short.
Have to subsidize street CA bonuses somehow
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Old 07-31-2018, 09:07 PM
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Doesn’t matter. Anyone who came to PSA did so either without doing their homework on the past sins of PSA, or because they just don’t care. Neither one is an excuse. The PSA pilots slit the throats of an entire industry and opened the floodgates of management abuse at a time when the regionals were poised to make gains.






Sad but true!
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