skytrails

Net negative is your opinion.

mm1989

No opinion. This TA is a damn joke.

MantisToboggan

Well folks, if you've ever wondered the mindset that got us our current steaming pile of garbage contract, wonder no more. "This is an issue, no doubt, but it miiiggghhhttt not be an issue in the future when this company gets its act together (HAHAHAHAHA). Let's accept poorly written language that slopes vastly in favor of the company. It won't be a problem in the future ( we don't think ).


By the way, part of being in a union is thinking in broader terms than just yourself. As stated above, this airline makes a habit of using every tool in their box to turn flights. Paying for an extension is nothing compared to cancelling a flight due to staffing. They don't care about the money one iota. Congrats on not getting extended frequently due to the fact that being senior as an FO only takes about 1.5 years of abuse. Think for the future, think for people other than just yourself.



We most certainly can have both. All of the problems at Piedmont are created by Piedmont management. Every negative thing happening here is their own doing. Don't let them off the hook.

It is astronomically cheaper to pay for extensions and triple premium than it is to have enough pilots for a healthy reserve group. $20,000 bonus, salary, health care, insurance..... waaaayyyy more expensive. By a lot. They know this.

AZFlyer

You don't even work here, so your opinion on our TA, our QOL, and our airline mean exactly ZIP to anyone here. Takes some balls or a lack of brain cells to think you have any place telling a pilot group for a company you don't even work for the kind of nonsense that comes from you. You have no idea what you're talking about.

skytrails

Typical disgruntled piedmont response. If things are so bad why not go take a DEC position at Envoy or GoJet? Or even an FO spot at Endeavor?

Theaveragejoker

Because, if you're within a few years of flowing taking a huge step backwards in your career doesn't make sense? About as much sense as voting yes on this deal.

PDTFlyer

Just can’t help yourself. Take your ball and go home to your own airline forum. Aka S T F U already.

skytrails

Why wait around for 3 years for a flow? Could go pick up an extra 45k somewhere and get hired off the street at a major in a couple years max.

AZFlyer

You have no idea whether or not I'm disgruntled. And that's my point. YOU have no idea what you're talking about. You're talking out your @$$ defending something that you have never seen or experienced. For what? You don't know me, you don't know the TA, you don't know PDT, you don't know jack.

It's obvious to see that you have no idea what you're talking about because you never make an actual ARGUMENT with facts that only someone who has access to the TA and who works for PDT would be able to possess. It's fine for fellow PDT pilots to disagree with me and think the TA is good, but you can't make that call from your position. All you continually do is respond to people with empty statements for the sake of being a contrarian, posing as someone who knows some deep wisdom that we lack. You're an imbecile.

For the record, I've had an overall positive experience at Piedmont, but that doesn't cloud my vision to see a bad deal when one is presented. Now kindly bugger off to wherever you came from.

Pilsung

Rather than taking a side for voting yes or for for voting no, I am seeking answers to questions- if this TA gets voted in or does not get voted in, does this change the occurrence of a negotiation at the next opportunity and is this in 2022? What would this next occurrence involve if that also gets voted no and would there be a mandatory follow up negotiation? Thanks in advance from a newbie...