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Old 09-27-2018, 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by MD-11Loader View Post
Isom stated in a townhall meeting on 5/8 that Envoy will be a 200 plane fleet, PSA 150, and PDT “about 60”. You guys are just about there aren’t you? Besides, does it really make sense to do bridge/conformity checks on the TSA birds and at the same time send 15 planes to you which need to go through your conformity as well? I though AAG was watching spending?
Lol since when does making sense actually apply to any decision airline Mngmt makes. We reach 60 in April. Something to doesn’t smell right though. We are pushing 700ish pilots on payroll and why have two sims for just 60 Aircraft. There’s more to the equation, we just haven’t been told yet.
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Old 09-27-2018, 04:10 AM
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Lol since when does making sense actually apply to any decision airline Mngmt makes. We reach 60 in April. Something to doesn’t smell right though. We are pushing 700ish pilots on payroll and why have two sims for just 60 Aircraft. There’s more to the equation, we just haven’t been told yet.
You mean the 11 month training pipeline that hasn’t changed in nearly 2 years?
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Old 09-27-2018, 04:33 AM
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You mean the 11 month training pipeline that hasn’t changed in nearly 2 years?
It’s 3-6 for DECs/CA upgrades

And 7.5-11 for NH FOs
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Old 09-27-2018, 04:55 AM
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It’s 3-6 for DECs/CA upgrades

And 7.5-11 for NH FOs
There's at least one new hire that's is just starting SOE that's been here for a year.
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Old 09-27-2018, 05:10 AM
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There's at least one new hire that's is just starting SOE that's been here for a year.
Not surprising. There are always outliers. Usually the 11 month+ folks request some time free of the training pipeline (Mil leave or FMLA type stuff) and the company is able to accommodate them.
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Old 09-27-2018, 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Otterbox View Post
Not surprising. There are always outliers. Usually the 11 month+ folks request some time free of the training pipeline (Mil leave or FMLA type stuff) and the company is able to accommodate them.
The December and January new hires fos are coming off soe now..
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Old 09-27-2018, 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by MD-11Loader View Post
Isom stated in a townhall meeting on 5/8 that Envoy will be a 200 plane fleet, PSA 150, and PDT “about 60”. You guys are just about there aren’t you? Besides, does it really make sense to do bridge/conformity checks on the TSA birds and at the same time send 15 planes to you which need to go through your conformity as well? I though AAG was watching spending?
Because Envoy has a better maintenance department when it comes to 145s.
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Old 09-27-2018, 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Otterbox View Post
Not surprising. There are always outliers. Usually the 11 month+ folks request some time free of the training pipeline (Mil leave or FMLA type stuff) and the company is able to accommodate them.

You realize this is abornal right? Normal 121 training footprint is roughly 2 months. This place has had years to put the right pieces in place to correct this and they have not.
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Old 09-27-2018, 07:36 AM
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If I had to make an educated guess base on the facts we have at hand, we will end up being no more than a 800 pilot airline with a healthily staffed reserve.

~350 Pilots in PHL
~150 Pilots in CLT
~150 Pilots in DCA (Taking over some of the TSA flying) as per the Newsletter.

60 airplanes, which we are due to finish taking deliveries of in February per the Flight ops department during the MEC meeting in June.

We’re done growing. Look at the writing on the wall, the premium pay is gone.
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Old 09-27-2018, 07:36 AM
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You realize this is abornal right? Normal 121 training footprint is roughly 2 months. This place has had years to put the right pieces in place to correct this and they have not.
^ this is correct. A friend of mine flowed to mainline from PSA back in July and she just finished SOE last week. 2 months.
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