Piedmont Airlines News & Rumors
03-05-2019, 02:07 PM
#3451
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Originally Posted by Phineas
Not trying to stir the pot, just trying to wrap my head around it all. With attrition higher than expected, then wouldn’t that bump people’s expected flow up a couple months? Maybe I’m still too green to see the negative from it all but if this trend continues then things would have to improve?
03-05-2019, 02:16 PM
#3452
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Originally Posted by AZFlyer
It helps you so long as the attrition occurs from people that are senior to you. The more senior you become the less likely it is that people senior to you are going to leave.
03-05-2019, 02:49 PM
#3453
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Originally Posted by Heavy Hive
Outside observer here, wondering why Piedmont management continually cannot get ahead of training. For year after year.
Have seen your schedules, as I recommended a friends son in 2016.
They just seem to waste all of your lives with low time 4 day trips. And you don't have any rigs to prevent them from defaulting to stupid. Seems his son is parked in hotel rooms far more than he flies. How anyone thinks building a month of low time low paying trips with hotel stays is good business is beyond me. It's simply insane. Total waste of crews, and you don't have enough. The minimum time for a four day should be 20 hard hours, and should actually be around 25.
It makes absolutely no sense why they don't have multiple day trips, especially one day trips seeing you only run two hubs.
No wonder nobody will come. The least they could do is pay you a little more and not be known as the lowest paid, but they seem too stupid even for that.
Good luck to all of you. It's totally obvious that your flight management is over their heads. You easily could be run like a mini SWA, but you have all the markings of a pre bankruptcy USAir management.
Have seen your schedules, as I recommended a friends son in 2016.
They just seem to waste all of your lives with low time 4 day trips. And you don't have any rigs to prevent them from defaulting to stupid. Seems his son is parked in hotel rooms far more than he flies. How anyone thinks building a month of low time low paying trips with hotel stays is good business is beyond me. It's simply insane. Total waste of crews, and you don't have enough. The minimum time for a four day should be 20 hard hours, and should actually be around 25.
It makes absolutely no sense why they don't have multiple day trips, especially one day trips seeing you only run two hubs.
No wonder nobody will come. The least they could do is pay you a little more and not be known as the lowest paid, but they seem too stupid even for that.
Good luck to all of you. It's totally obvious that your flight management is over their heads. You easily could be run like a mini SWA, but you have all the markings of a pre bankruptcy USAir management.
Why does the place still run like a 1970s turboprop airline operating on a shoe string budget? The company is afraid to spend money to improve things and placing jobs at risk by making the operation more expensive. On the other hand, the Pilot Union leadership is afraid to push for more improvements out of fear they’ll put their jobs and pensions at risk by making the operation more expensive.
03-05-2019, 02:50 PM
#3454
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Originally Posted by AZFlyer
It helps you so long as the attrition occurs from people that are senior to you. The more senior you become the less likely it is that people senior to you are going to leave.
A sustained hiring of your first officers from Spirit and Frontier would be devastating to AA Piedmont feed into KPHL. Both those airlines are cherry picking that hub.
Last edited by Heavy Hive; 03-05-2019 at 03:05 PM.
03-05-2019, 04:09 PM
#3455
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Originally Posted by Phineas
Not trying to stir the pot, just trying to wrap my head around it all. With attrition higher than expected, then wouldn’t that bump people’s expected flow up a couple months? Maybe I’m still too green to see the negative from it all but if this trend continues then things would have to improve?
The only people making out are the ones leaving.
03-05-2019, 04:49 PM
#3456
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Originally Posted by Heavy Hive
A sustained hiring of your first officers from Spirit and Frontier would be devastating to AA Piedmont feed into KPHL. Both those airlines are cherry picking that hub.
I welcome all of these challenges to the company as having them forced up against the wall is the only thing that is going to get things to change here.
03-06-2019, 04:54 AM
#3458
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Originally Posted by CharlieFoxtrot
Only 6 new hires in the March 19 class....
03-06-2019, 05:13 AM
#3459
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Originally Posted by AZFlyer
It's just me trying to read between the lines of things that I've observed, but I believe we are beginning to experience that angle already.
I welcome all of these challenges to the company as having them forced up against the wall is the only thing that is going to get things to change here.
I welcome all of these challenges to the company as having them forced up against the wall is the only thing that is going to get things to change here.
03-06-2019, 05:19 AM
#3460
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Originally Posted by Outof410
That happened already. The March 11th upgrade class was cancelled yesterday because they could not cover the trips.
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