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Old 03-12-2019, 09:35 AM
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You don’t get captain pay (unless DEC) until your first flight as PIC off SOE. During SOE you are an FO on the release and paid as an FO. They need to change that. Too many people who have been here are stuck on FO pay while in training while DECs are getting huge bonuses and CA pay day one. Just hope these DECs realize they will be at the bottom of the bidding seniority and getting the worst of the worst schedules while everyone else who’s been here starts/continues to upgrade.


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The ez way for us to solve that would be all CA to all bid FO positions again... im just joking ofcourse, don't want anybody to think im promoting a work action.
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Old 03-17-2019, 03:53 AM
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Heard from my buddy today they cancelled yet another upgrade class on the 25th. And a huge number of FO’s are going to Frontier. If that’s the case I doubt any classes will happen next month either. How are we still getting ANY new hires?
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Old 03-17-2019, 04:03 AM
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Heard from my buddy today they cancelled yet another upgrade class on the 25th. And a huge number of FO’s are going to Frontier. If that’s the case I doubt any classes will happen next month either. How are we still getting ANY new hires?


Who knows... I felt like we were doing really good last year until around November/December. This summer is going to get interesting as there is already 2000 hours open time for FOs and 1500 for captains just for April. Granted, BUPs haven’t been made yet. I’ll have to look to see where we were last month.

Oh wait, I can’t because our website has been down forever...


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Old 03-17-2019, 04:09 AM
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Heard from my buddy today they cancelled yet another upgrade class on the 25th. And a huge number of FO’s are going to Frontier. If that’s the case I doubt any classes will happen next month either. How are we still getting ANY new hires?
PDTs Flight schedule should ease up in the fall. Maybe they’ll start upgrades back up by then...

AWAC had a similar situation and once they started down that road it took them three years before they had enough FOs back on property to run upgrade classes.
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Old 03-17-2019, 06:18 AM
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Probably won’t be long till they start doing what Gojet does and have all of their DECs right seat qualified and mostly fly as FO’s despite getting paid captain pay.
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Old 03-17-2019, 10:31 AM
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Probably won’t be long till they start doing what Gojet does and have all of their DECs right seat qualified and mostly fly as FO’s despite getting paid captain pay.
Our FSDO strictly prohibited that... ot

I wouldn't be surprised on forced downgrades from the bottom of the list to cover the flying. This summer is not going to be pretty for piedmont.
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Originally Posted by OpMidClimax View Post
Our FSDO strictly prohibited that... ot

I wouldn't be surprised on forced downgrades from the bottom of the list to cover the flying. This summer is not going to be pretty for piedmont.
Ha! Summer will be over by the time they downgrade anyone and get them through training...
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Old 03-17-2019, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by OpMidClimax View Post
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I wouldn't be surprised on forced downgrades from the bottom of the list to cover the flying. This summer is not going to be pretty for piedmont.
Doubt you’d see that since were not exactly fat on captains. Just barely properly staffed. Plus if you forced down grade someone you can guarantee they’d be gone in a heart beat to a LCC or one of the other regionals offering direct entry captains.
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Originally Posted by OpMidClimax View Post
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I wouldn't be surprised on forced downgrades from the bottom of the list to cover the flying. This summer is not going to be pretty for piedmont.
Guess we'd see those DEC's get downgraded first.
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Guess we'd see those DEC's get downgraded first.
Fine by me. My ticket is punched out of here.
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