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Old 05-06-2019, 04:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Thedude86 View Post
Again. American’s percentage in Republic is very small. It’s 100% for all the WOs.
Aag overall investment in RAH is much more than all 3 WO combined... than we can add in the 2 subsidiary payments to mesa in 17 and 18 that aag made among with the renegotiated capital agreement...
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Old 05-06-2019, 04:45 AM
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Originally Posted by MD-11Loader View Post
I believe that American owns around 26% of Republic, which is the largest chunk.
You’re almost proving my point. 26% isn’t enough to shut down Republic. 100% is. And even if the Republic’s pilots and/or management tries to strong arm American, don’t think for one second AAG won’t take at least some of their flying or routes and give them to someone else.

Again, the whole reason regionals exist in the first place is to keep costs low.
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Old 05-06-2019, 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Thedude86 View Post
You’re almost proving my point. 26% isn’t enough to shut down Republic. 100% is. And even if the Republic’s pilots and/or management tries to strong arm American, don’t think for one second AAG won’t take at least some of their flying or routes and give them to someone else.

Again, the whole reason regionals exist in the first place is to keep costs low.
So 26% is a tiny portion? It’s the largest individual chunk of the 5 creditors and certainly enough to have some sway. AAG will do what they need to do in order to make their route network fit their needs. They could chose mergers, they could re-base planes, they could park planes. Everyday is a wonderful crap shoot around here.
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Old 05-06-2019, 06:16 AM
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S. T. F. U. already. Email your reps with your #takethemoney opinions. If you are mngnt trying to stir the pilot pot you are reprehensible and part of the problem. Go learn some decency from PSA mngnt. They seem to do a better job.
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Old 05-06-2019, 07:43 AM
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Aside from the F&H friends posting, Piedmont line pilots seem to be happy with how their union is handling things so far and are content to let the process work.

The take the money and run crowd don’t seem to have a vested interest in the good of the greater good of the pilot group as a whole. One is a self proclaimed friend of people in management, another has a resignation letter pending, there’s maybe a pre retirement gentleman looking to beef up his pension points and all but one of the rest don’t even work at Piedmont. The union reps won’t be getting many emails telling them to stop working on improvements for their pilot group. They certainly wont receive more than the overwhelming number of emails they got from the group seeking improvements.
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Old 05-06-2019, 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by PDTFlyer View Post
. Email your reps with your #takethemoney opinions.

What this guy ^^ said. Please all do that.

Let’s get more money and more leverage! How much more leverage are we going to have when 3-6 months after raises, and the pilot group is smaller than now?

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Old 05-06-2019, 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Phoenix21 View Post
Aside from the F&H friends posting, Piedmont line pilots seem to be happy with how their union is handling things so far and are content to let the process work.

The take the money and run crowd don’t seem to have a vested interest in the good of the greater good of the pilot group as a whole. One is a self proclaimed friend of people in management, another has a resignation letter pending, there’s maybe a pre retirement gentleman looking to beef up his pension points and all but one of the rest don’t even work at Piedmont. The union reps won’t be getting many emails telling them to stop working on improvements for their pilot group. They certainly wont receive more than the overwhelming number of emails they got from the group seeking improvements.
interesting. one of my best friends is in the union and all the emails he has been receiving are pilots urging the union to take the money. it seems all views are wrong.
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Old 05-06-2019, 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Phoenix21 View Post
Aside from the F&H friends posting, Piedmont line pilots seem to be happy with how their union is handling things so far and are content to let the process work.

The take the money and run crowd don’t seem to have a vested interest in the good of the greater good of the pilot group as a whole. One is a self proclaimed friend of people in management, another has a resignation letter pending, there’s maybe a pre retirement gentleman looking to beef up his pension points and all but one of the rest don’t even work at Piedmont. The union reps won’t be getting many emails telling them to stop working on improvements for their pilot group. They certainly wont receive more than the overwhelming number of emails they got from the group seeking improvements.
I am on the pilots side. I just have a different opinion as to how this will play out.
I’m all for more days off, higher credit trips, a real min day, no in your face and up your @55, no extensions, not fighting for credit that was obviously in your line but got cancelled, pay that’s equal to the other WO; to name a few.

Have a nice day.
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I mean at this point, even if taking the money is the best this pilot group can get, it's setting a terrible precedent for our future negotiations and for Envoy. I think the union did the right thing by trying to push for more, but if after all this we settle for the company's original offer, they're gonna keep that in the front of their minds next time we go to the table for something.
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Old 05-06-2019, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by OversoldCommute View Post
I mean at this point, even if taking the money is the best this pilot group can get, it's setting a terrible precedent for our future negotiations and for Envoy. I think the union did the right thing by trying to push for more, but if after all this we settle for the company's original offer, they're gonna keep that in the front of their minds next time we go to the table for something.
All true!!

But if classes stay full they will do nothing or next to it. If they are empty then IMHO they will give us little band aids on a big wound.
We waiting 6 months last year just to see a painfully bad new contract!!
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