IamPDTrecruiter

Hello everyone! Just a quick introduction. I am a Pilot Recruiter with Piedmont Airlines. I review applications and conduct interviews along with others on the recruitment team. We’ve decided to a create profile in order to answer some of your questions regarding the hiring process.



Please, before you ask me, take the time to review this link https://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/...dmont_airlines and our website Piedmont Airlines > Home. Both of these have good information on what Piedmont offers!



Ask away!

jtbost

See PM. Thanks.

phrogfella

How long are you estimating that it will take to flow to AA?

IamPDTrecruiter

This is a really hard question to answer. My personal projection for pilots hired today, on the semi- realistic cautious end is 5.5 to 6 years. I don't have a crystal ball to give an exact answer and this guess is also based on past attrition trends but the key word here is past. Any assumptions on how many pilots Piedmont will lose due to attrition outside the flow is just that, an assumption.

sailingfun

Does Piedmont have any plans to bring their current work rules and actual schedules up to current regional standards?

offmyrocker

*makes some popcorn and gets comfy*

phrogfella

Thanks, that makes sense. What assumptions are y’all making to come up with the 5.5-6yrs, i.e., how many flows and attrition per month? What are the historical trends?

CADR

We have to go over this all the time with perspective pilots because all the PDT propaganda has "fastest path to American" plastered all over it. The so called "5 year flow" was true when the flow first started. But it's been 5 years since then and things have drastically changed. Here's the cold hard numbers.

Currently, there are 694 pilots on the seniority list. Piedmont currently flows 6 pilots / month or 72 pilots / year if AA holds 12 new hires classes / year (they sometimes do not hold a new hire class in December - because of the holidays ect). PDT flow number increases by 1 pilot / month if PDT total number of pilots meets a threshold. Do not even think that will help you at this point since the PDT pilot group is actually shrinking and not growing anymore.

If you were to become pilot 695 on the list today that would equal 9.65 years for flow (695 divided by 72). Piedmont is currently flowing about the number 60 person on seniority. So, 695 - 60 = 635. So if you are still that number 695 on seniority you are really number 635 for flow. However, if you do the same / 72 for flows / year (635 / 72) that equals 8.8 years for flow for a new hire today.

The one thing this does not take into account is attrition and retirements. But if a recruiter is telling you that you will have a 5-6 year flow, well that is BS. Essentially their math is based off of you being part of the statistic of leaving Piedmont before you would flow. You would need roughly 200 some people senior to you to leave within 5 years. PDT only has 694 Pilots. You really think 1/3 of them are going to retire and or leave in 5 years? If so, then you'll have your 5-year flow. That's quite the bet though.

Do the math, it's not hard. But a new hire today is looking at probably 7.5 years for flow. Sure a lot of factors can change this, but the flow will in no way be 5 years from date of hire today.

fireman

Huh I was ready to flow but some here at piedmont training had another plan . I would be embarrass to come on here and talk about that great flow !!! working here at piedmont was not great !

dash8trash

Uhhh what????