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DC2Airmail 03-07-2023 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by NewXJT2019 (Post 3601724)
I'm in a similar spot as Grabo172. Training was very well organized and professional; yes DECs are put to the head of the line because CAs are needed on the line. Of the DECs in our class, we had few problems. The one DEC I know who didn't make it through had a 145 type rating, so who can figure. For reserve, I checked "First out" ("Will fly") and I've been flying most of the reserve periods. It's been a good move. Now there are some deficiencies in the contract like no 401(k) until six months, and actually getting and using those weeks of vacation is more difficult than it should be, but it's still been a win so far.

Great to hear, thank you! I hope to start soon.

NewXJT2019 03-10-2023 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by DC2Airmail (Post 3603715)
Great to hear, thank you! I hope to start soon.

Heads up though, my buddies junior to me, but still 2022 hires still can't get 2023 vacation awarded and obviously it's now March.

F9 Bag Room 04-18-2023 05:15 AM

Hello all,

Couple quick DEC questions:

-the recruitment literature says 12 days off. Is that true or is it the typical 11?

-it also says LC Reserve after 250hrs. Are they sticking to that or changing folks to SC or airport standby on scheduling's whim?

Thanks for your time and any info!

HockeyPilot1 04-18-2023 06:05 AM


Originally Posted by F9 Bag Room (Post 3625742)
Hello all,

Couple quick DEC questions:

-the recruitment literature says 12 days off. Is that true or is it the typical 11?

-it also says LC Reserve after 250hrs. Are they sticking to that or changing folks to SC or airport standby on scheduling's whim?

Thanks for your time and any info!

The AIP that addresses both of those things has not been ratified yet. Once it is, 12 days off will be the minimum.

Long call can be converted to short call but cannot be used for airport standby unless there aren’t any originally short call people left to cover it (recent FLICA changes make it easier to keep scheduling honest about that)

I can’t speak to the CA side but FO side they haven’t been converting LC to SC for a long while now.

Descendvia1800 04-20-2023 02:10 AM


Originally Posted by Otterbox (Post 3598502)
Living near PHL is good. Piedmont training is generally good. DECs generally are weak and are more commonly getting passed through the for the OE Instructors to deal with. Lack of recency of experience really hinder DECs situational awareness and lack of familiarity with AA regional operations tends to compound issues. DECs come chasing the money and the company is under a lot of pressure to get flights staffed so they keep getting pushed through. Very few DECs have made it through successfully, in training footprint. It is possible, but requires a LOT of effort on the DECs part.

"...more commonly getting passed through the for the OE Instructors to deal with"'

Absolutely false. Hence the comments on not many making it thru training...

awaywego 06-06-2023 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by Descendvia1800 (Post 3626748)
"...more commonly getting passed through the for the OE Instructors to deal with"'

Absolutely false. Hence the comments on not many making it thru training...

what is the dec pass rate as of late? What are some of the problems and how did the company help or just kicked em’ out?

Thatsapproved 06-07-2023 05:57 AM


Originally Posted by awaywego (Post 3647157)
what is the dec pass rate as of late? What are some of the problems and how did the company help or just kicked em’ out?

DECs are expected to bring their knowledge level up to an FO that has been here for 2 years. familiar with FOM and a deep proficient knowledge of the 145. Those just coming over and expected to be taught this are not doing well. It’s a lot of self study


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