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High speed taxi
What’s the story with the Piedmont plane doing a high speed taxi test then “accidentally” taking off? Supposedly with like 500 lbs of fuel.
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Originally Posted by MCDUmanipulator
(Post 3616486)
What’s the story with the Piedmont plane doing a high speed taxi test then “accidentally” taking off? Supposedly with like 500 lbs of fuel.
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Did the FO not notice anything? Glad everyone made it out safe though.
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Originally Posted by MCDUmanipulator
(Post 3616625)
Did the FO not notice anything? Glad everyone made it out safe though.
Low experience DEC got setup for failure for sure… Brand new FO off OE (green on green scheduling?), MX request for 100KIAS taxi, that the company doesn’t have a set procedure for (for a shimmy that usually happens at 40-70KIAS on landing rollout), Long airport standby sit for reserve… Luckily they had enough gas for one lap in the pattern otherwise they’d be dead and probably would have taken out some folks in Essington with them. |
Any more info about this?
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First time hearing about this, and everything about it sounds retarded. Definitely agree with Otterbox that the whole DEC selection and training needs to be reimagined. Too many instances of incompetence in training, when the whole premise is these guys are bringing experience. The only way this isn’t a green-on-green situation is if the DEC was previously typed in the 145, which makes this error even more egregious. FO was literally along for the ride. Hopefully this cues management in to the idea that throwing anyone with a pulse in the left seat has drawbacks.
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Originally Posted by IVVIB
(Post 3618289)
First time hearing about this, and everything about it sounds retarded. Definitely agree with Otterbox that the whole DEC selection and training needs to be reimagined. Too many instances of incompetence in training, when the whole premise is these guys are bringing experience. The only way this isn’t a green-on-green situation is if the DEC was previously typed in the 145, which makes this error even more egregious. FO was literally along for the ride. Hopefully this cues management in to the idea that throwing anyone with a pulse in the left seat has drawbacks.
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They kept him on duty after that?!? JFC. Yeah, not to crap on the whole lot of guys but you really have to ask why someone who has upgraded, or is qualified to didn’t do that at their previous employer, and isn’t comfortable there. TransStates and ExpressJet guys, I get it. But, generally we’re getting problem children. This should be filtered out in the interview process, but as far as I know instructors/ LCA aren’t on the interview panel selecting pilots. Instead, the work’s left up to them during training. For instance, who thinks it’s a great idea to pay and train a guy thats over 64? What’s the ROI there? DECS are needed for fast growth, but inevitably water down the institutional knowledge and experience base of our Captain group.
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Originally Posted by IVVIB
(Post 3618341)
They kept him on duty after that?!? JFC. Yeah, not to crap on the whole lot of guys but you really have to ask why someone who has upgraded, or is qualified to didn’t do that at their previous employer, and isn’t comfortable there. TransStates and ExpressJet guys, I get it. But, generally we’re getting problem children. This should be filtered out in the interview process, but as far as I know instructors/ LCA aren’t on the interview panel selecting pilots. Instead, the work’s left up to them during training. For instance, who thinks it’s a great idea to pay and train a guy thats over 64? What’s the ROI there? DECS are needed for fast growth, but inevitably water down the institutional knowledge and experience base of our Captain group.
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Originally Posted by HockeyPilot1
(Post 3618357)
Especially doesn’t help that they’ve sent sim instructors back to the line and hired non-seniority list instructors who retired from AA and don’t understand the unique training circumstances the regional level faces.
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