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CADR 06-10-2025 07:53 AM

Dawn of the E170/175
 
Anyone have any info on this or follow the PDT social media? Seems like something is brewing...

AA did say they do not want any 50-seat aircraft in the AA network starting in 2030.

Is there any official announcement coming soon, what's the current rumor mill?

UhhhKhakis 06-10-2025 08:04 AM


Originally Posted by CADR (Post 3919318)
Anyone have any info on this or follow the PDT social media? Seems like something is brewing...

AA did say they do not want any 50-seat aircraft in the AA network starting in 2030.

Is there any official announcement coming soon, what's the current rumor mill?

My bet would be Piedmont going away over getting the 175.

ClappedOut145 06-10-2025 08:10 AM


Originally Posted by CADR (Post 3919318)
Anyone have any info on this or follow the PDT social media? Seems like something is brewing...

AA did say they do not want any 50-seat aircraft in the AA network starting in 2030.

Is there any official announcement coming soon, what's the current rumor mill?

Envoy just announced 33 more 175’s so that cannot be ideal for PDT. They should merge with ENY or PSA and keep the ground handling entity in its own.

cryinginahotel 06-10-2025 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by UhhhKhakis (Post 3919320)
My bet would be Piedmont going away over getting the 175.


Your bet is wrong. Internal messaging has announced the deleivery of the new aircraft this morning. Piedmont will live long and prosper. It’s official We will be a two fleet business for a while as they roll out the 175s.

Njflyguy 06-10-2025 09:41 AM

https://piedmont-airlines.com/2025/0...-class-future/

ClappedOut145 06-10-2025 10:09 AM


Originally Posted by Njflyguy (Post 3919336)

Absolutely shocking move, but AAG operates in such manner. Still, it will be great for the PDT pilots to fly something that doesn’t have 30,000 hours of farts in it before it comes to them. They’ll love the Piedmont Heavy.

QRH Bingo 06-10-2025 10:20 AM


Originally Posted by cryinginahotel (Post 3919332)
Your bet is wrong. Internal messaging has announced the deleivery of the new aircraft this morning. Piedmont will live long and prosper. It’s official We will be a two fleet business for a while as they roll out the 175s.

Easy on that high horse of yours. Nothing is forever certain in this industry except the unknown & change. Their bet may be “wrong” today but “right” next year with you being merged into the bottom of another seniority list or even out of a job.

Be excited for the news now and welcome the change later. But don’t get too comfortable that the regional you work for, no matter the name, will “live long and prosper”.

CADR 06-10-2025 11:09 AM

So PDT getting rid of the 145s and going to 175s. How does this relate to scope clause with mainline AA? Does this mean AA will probably have to phase out contract carriers like Skywest and Republic so that their wholly owns, PDT, Envoy, and PSA will do all of the regional "American Eagle" flying?

Only so many 76 seat aircraft can do flying under American Eagle in order to protect mainline AA Pilot jobs per the mainline Pilot CBA. I wonder if the 175s deliveries will be tied to new aircraft deliveries at mainline, or maybe mainline has another aircraft order on the horizon.

Swakid8 06-10-2025 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by ClappedOut145 (Post 3919341)
Absolutely shocking move, but AAG operates in such manner. Still, it will be great for the PDT pilots to fly something that doesn’t have 30,000 hours of farts in it before it comes to them. They’ll love the Piedmont Heavy.

Gotta keep Piedmont alive in order to play the whipsaw game if need be…. Can not do that if Envoy is given all of the jets…

Otterbox 06-10-2025 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by cryinginahotel (Post 3919332)
Your bet is wrong. Internal messaging has announced the deleivery of the new aircraft this morning. Piedmont will live long and prosper. It’s official We will be a two fleet business for a while as they roll out the 175s.

I remember when Piedmont was getting 170s but ****ed up the transition from the -8 to 145 so badly that AA took them and gave them to another regional instead and Lyle gave away the 170 model they had in SBY.

We’ll see how things actually go this time. A lot can happen between now and 2028.


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