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Originally Posted by twighead
(Post 1726186)
If by trip touch you mean that if a vacation day touches any part of a trip, then that entire trip is dropped. Then yes, that's exactly what Piedmont has.
As far as vacation accrual, Year 1= 5 days, year 2= 10 days, year 7= 15 days, and year 14= 20 days. You can usually average about 15 days off in a row with placement of 5 vacation days at Piedmont. |
These contracts are all for a decade because management knows that with a pilot shortage at the regional level coming up, pilots are going to get leverage. They are locking these contracts down while the regionals are shrinking and management has the leverage. They will then offer signing bonuses once the shortage really hits as they are cheaper than actually giving out raises. We are playing into it. We deserve to make as little as we do at the regional level due to our own selfishness and stupidity. We are worth what we negotiate and at the regional level we are really bad at it because we want growth so bad. I'm at a major so when I say "we," I mean pilots.
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Originally Posted by billyho
(Post 1726263)
That's why I believe Management put openers in the contract. People stop coming here then they sweetin' the deal.
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Originally Posted by sublime259
(Post 1726361)
That made me laugh and shake my head at the same time. Do you really believe management will ever voluntarily "sweeten' the deal?" If so, wow...
Of course not... But they will when they see nobody will come work here if the deal is that bad. We all know it's for them not us. |
Originally Posted by higgi8f6
(Post 1726165)
?...I feel the TA is just below industry standard for 76 seat aircraft and agreeing to a 10 year contract is just plain stupid but ALPAs motto has always been get the aircraft on property then negotiate up.
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Originally Posted by billyho
(Post 1726366)
Of course not... But they will when they see nobody will come work here if the deal is that bad.
We all know it's for them not us. Or, you could just vote NO to any and all concessions, especially when your parent company is making all time record profits. Join Envoy, Silver, Republic, and Expressjet... NO more concessions is the only way to finally stop the downward direction this profession has been in for all too long. Your repetitive B/S excuses sound just like those management use to try and justify cuts for everyone but themselves! |
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Originally Posted by billyho
(Post 1726366)
Of course not... But they will when they see nobody will come work here if the deal is that bad.
We all know it's for them not us. |
Originally Posted by diva
(Post 1726739)
When are you going to back off ?? How do you justify fooling your pilot group to vote yes just so you can keep your management seat ?? I hope Piedmont pilots are smarter and don't fall for this bs !!!
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Before anybody considers justifying a vote to give a single penny away...ask yourself are you happy with this?
http://www.franklinmodems.org/wp-con...CEOPAY1978.jpg I sure as hell wouldn't give any more money to this scum of the earth. |
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