DUI and Medical
#31
Whatever you might say about the FAA, they are not weighing guilt or innocence in medical decisions and processes, they are just looking at the medical issue and risk. Whether or not it's your fault that you had a brain aneurysm or got a DUI is not relevant to the certification issue.
That said, I do have a hard spot with HIMs being available only to those with addiction issues vice just bad judgement. In the event of any questions being raised about alcohol, the first words out of your mouth should be "I think I have a problem..."
That said, I do have a hard spot with HIMs being available only to those with addiction issues vice just bad judgement. In the event of any questions being raised about alcohol, the first words out of your mouth should be "I think I have a problem..."
#32
I had a brain aneurysm the same day a guy at my airline got arrested at the airport for blowing 0.09 after a layover. Same exact day!
I got back on the line before he did, but not by much. I think we were months apart (2.5 years). Funny thing, I was good as New after about 6 weeks......
I lost almost everything (but I’m sure so did he).
I got back on the line before he did, but not by much. I think we were months apart (2.5 years). Funny thing, I was good as New after about 6 weeks......
I lost almost everything (but I’m sure so did he).
#33
I always saw it as unlucky that it happened at all. Over the last 5 years I’ve had people suggest how I should ‘feel’ about the whole ordeal, but none of them went through what I went though. I was down to making preparations for homelessness.
And it’s all because an FAA consultant had to overrule another consultant’s recommendation for certification. Missed a ton of hiring at the majors and ended up broke. Sorry if I will forever be bitter about that experience. 5 years later and I still have the occasional nightmare about the ordeal.
And it’s all because an FAA consultant had to overrule another consultant’s recommendation for certification. Missed a ton of hiring at the majors and ended up broke. Sorry if I will forever be bitter about that experience. 5 years later and I still have the occasional nightmare about the ordeal.
#34
I always saw it as unlucky that it happened at all. Over the last 5 years I’ve had people suggest how I should ‘feel’ about the whole ordeal, but none of them went through what I went though. I was down to making preparations for homelessness.
And it’s all because an FAA consultant had to overrule another consultant’s recommendation for certification. Missed a ton of hiring at the majors and ended up broke. Sorry if I will forever be bitter about that experience. 5 years later and I still have the occasional nightmare about the ordeal.
And it’s all because an FAA consultant had to overrule another consultant’s recommendation for certification. Missed a ton of hiring at the majors and ended up broke. Sorry if I will forever be bitter about that experience. 5 years later and I still have the occasional nightmare about the ordeal.
SOURCE:
https://www.bafound.org/about-brain-...ics-and-facts/
I had a very close family member die about 20 years early because of one. Never had a chance to say goodbye, just collapsed and that was that.
In no way am I underplaying your plight, but things could have been worse, much worse.
#35
Intimately familiar with the stats, thanks, and so sorry for your loss.
Still feel the way I do. This was a very emotionally and psychologically devastating time in my life. Woke up feeling like a failure most days that I just could not get a job in the real world and could only watch helplessly as the funds bled away. Maybe if I had been in a different line of work I could see it another way. . You and I will just always see it differently, I guess.
And my apologies for causing this thread drift. That all said, I do agree that anyone who has lost control should have a path back — whether it be the 0.15+ DUI or even getting in the cockpit under the influence. Very tough, though, that’s it got to be such and awfully expensive (and time consuming) road back.
Still feel the way I do. This was a very emotionally and psychologically devastating time in my life. Woke up feeling like a failure most days that I just could not get a job in the real world and could only watch helplessly as the funds bled away. Maybe if I had been in a different line of work I could see it another way. . You and I will just always see it differently, I guess.
And my apologies for causing this thread drift. That all said, I do agree that anyone who has lost control should have a path back — whether it be the 0.15+ DUI or even getting in the cockpit under the influence. Very tough, though, that’s it got to be such and awfully expensive (and time consuming) road back.
#36
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2017
Posts: 621
Intimately familiar with the stats, thanks, and so sorry for your loss.
Still feel the way I do. This was a very emotionally and psychologically devastating time in my life. Woke up feeling like a failure most days that I just could not get a job in the real world and could only watch helplessly as the funds bled away. Maybe if I had been in a different line of work I could see it another way. . You and I will just always see it differently, I guess.
And my apologies for causing this thread drift. That all said, I do agree that anyone who has lost control should have a path back — whether it be the 0.15+ DUI or even getting in the cockpit under the influence. Very tough, though, that’s it got to be such and awfully expensive (and time consuming) road back.
Still feel the way I do. This was a very emotionally and psychologically devastating time in my life. Woke up feeling like a failure most days that I just could not get a job in the real world and could only watch helplessly as the funds bled away. Maybe if I had been in a different line of work I could see it another way. . You and I will just always see it differently, I guess.
And my apologies for causing this thread drift. That all said, I do agree that anyone who has lost control should have a path back — whether it be the 0.15+ DUI or even getting in the cockpit under the influence. Very tough, though, that’s it got to be such and awfully expensive (and time consuming) road back.
You have every right to still be angry over it
#37
On Reserve
Joined APC: Feb 2017
Posts: 15
Intimately familiar with the stats, thanks, and so sorry for your loss.
Still feel the way I do. This was a very emotionally and psychologically devastating time in my life. Woke up feeling like a failure most days that I just could not get a job in the real world and could only watch helplessly as the funds bled away. Maybe if I had been in a different line of work I could see it another way. . You and I will just always see it differently, I guess.
And my apologies for causing this thread drift. That all said, I do agree that anyone who has lost control should have a path back — whether it be the 0.15+ DUI or even getting in the cockpit under the influence. Very tough, though, that’s it got to be such and awfully expensive (and time consuming) road back.
Still feel the way I do. This was a very emotionally and psychologically devastating time in my life. Woke up feeling like a failure most days that I just could not get a job in the real world and could only watch helplessly as the funds bled away. Maybe if I had been in a different line of work I could see it another way. . You and I will just always see it differently, I guess.
And my apologies for causing this thread drift. That all said, I do agree that anyone who has lost control should have a path back — whether it be the 0.15+ DUI or even getting in the cockpit under the influence. Very tough, though, that’s it got to be such and awfully expensive (and time consuming) road back.
#38
after care question
Hope some of you guys can help me out here.
currently going thru the HIMs process. had to resign from a new job since i was on IOE when this issue surfaced and couldn't renew my medical, I had to resign (They don't allow medical leaves while in training)..no DUI, just issues from the past came back to bite me...
It seems 2 years if the average time to get back in the air..so ****ty...
Does anyone have info on "Aftercare".. my AMEs nurse said its basically a combo of group and individual sessions about 3-4 times a month...and right now I got stepped down from IOP to regular out patient which is once a week..and I'm about to be done with that. My confusion is whats the difference between aftercare and regular outpatient since both is basically once a week group/individual sessions.
any insight thru this process would be much appreciated. not flying is horrible - i wouldn't wish this upon anyone
currently going thru the HIMs process. had to resign from a new job since i was on IOE when this issue surfaced and couldn't renew my medical, I had to resign (They don't allow medical leaves while in training)..no DUI, just issues from the past came back to bite me...
It seems 2 years if the average time to get back in the air..so ****ty...
Does anyone have info on "Aftercare".. my AMEs nurse said its basically a combo of group and individual sessions about 3-4 times a month...and right now I got stepped down from IOP to regular out patient which is once a week..and I'm about to be done with that. My confusion is whats the difference between aftercare and regular outpatient since both is basically once a week group/individual sessions.
any insight thru this process would be much appreciated. not flying is horrible - i wouldn't wish this upon anyone
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