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Old 12-27-2017, 08:48 AM   #1  
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Last Spring I made the stupid decision to drive while intoxicated and blew a .15. I reported everything to the FAA in which they came back and required me to get a substance evaluation by a psychiatrist. I did that and the psychiatrist stated alcohol abuse not dependence and recommend monitoring. Luckily, I’ve already been doing monitoring for the past 4 months and I’ve sent each urine test to the FAA. I also sent the FAA a liver function test to prove I do not have liver damage.

My file is now in OKC waiting for a decision...the HIMS AME has advised to me get a cog screen done which will cost me ~$2500... he said the FAA may label this as dependence even though the psychiatrist clearly stated it’s not and this cog screen could be our “saving grace”.

My medical expires in a few months. Im in my 20s and currently employed by a 121 carrier. Does anyone have any experience with this? Would the FAA make me go to treatment for a first time alcohol offense?

Treatment would mean months out of work, and I would be absolutely broke.
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Last Spring I made the stupid decision to drive while intoxicated and blew a .15. I reported everything to the FAA in which they came back and required me to get a substance evaluation by a psychiatrist. I did that and the psychiatrist stated alcohol abuse not dependence and recommend monitoring. Luckily, I’ve already been doing monitoring for the past 4 months and I’ve sent each urine test to the FAA. I also sent the FAA a liver function test to prove I do not have liver damage.

My file is now in OKC waiting for a decision...the HIMS AME has advised to me get a cog screen done which will cost me ~$2500... he said the FAA may label this as dependence even though the psychiatrist clearly stated it’s not and this cog screen could be our “saving grace”.

My medical expires in a few months. Im in my 20s and currently employed by a 121 carrier. Does anyone have any experience with this? Would the FAA make me go to treatment for a first time alcohol offense?

Treatment would mean months out of work, and I would be absolutely broke.
What’s your union saying? They may have some experience in this.

Every 121 pilot I’ve heard of had to go to treatment to keep/ get their medical back.

If I was you, I’d plan on having to take the most expensive route to overcome this obstacle..
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Old 12-27-2017, 08:59 AM   #3  
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What’s your union saying? They may have some experience in this.

Every 121 pilot I’ve heard of had to go to treatment to keep/ get their medical back.

If I was you, I’d plan on having to take the most expensive route to overcome this obstacle..
Union said “we don’t know what the possibilities are”. I recieved a letter stating get a psychiatrist exam, find a HIMS AME to get onto monitoring and to apply for a SI.
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Union said “we don’t know what the possibilities are”. I recieved a letter stating get a psychiatrist exam, find a HIMS AME to get onto monitoring and to apply for a SI.
It sounds like you have done everything that was recommended, and must now wait patiently for the FAA decision. They may take their time, but our HIMS committee found them to be fair. If they require any more items, your willing compliance is very important.
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I found the underlying issue. The psychiatrist report stated “possible black out” and apparently that’s causing concern even though the psychiatrist specifically said I do not need treatment. Thoughts?
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I found the underlying issue. The psychiatrist report stated “possible black out” and apparently that’s causing concern even though the psychiatrist specifically said I do not need treatment. Thoughts?
Adverse life ramifications of alcohol use (such as DUI or blackout) hint at a problem, ie addiction. It could be an isolated case of abuse but the FAA probably wants to cover their butt in paper.
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Adverse life ramifications of alcohol use (such as DUI or blackout) hint at a problem, ie addiction. It could be an isolated case of abuse but the FAA probably wants to cover their butt in paper.
So what does this mean? HIMS?
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So what does this mean? HIMS?
We are not qualified to say, but the FAA will let you know, probably by letter with a copy to your HIMS AME. In the meantime, you might find this website informative: Home
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Your Union is correct, find A HIMS AME and go through the hoops.
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My medical has been sent to DC for review. Is that common?

My medical expires in March. Is there a chance I might be SOL?
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