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Old 06-13-2018, 06:25 AM   #11
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I was going with the thread drift about airlines having their own medical exams.
Well, in this case AmericanAirlines has established their own medical REQUIREMENT, above and beyond that required (and arguably permitted) by law. Whether they actually do testing on their applicants or not, and whether they would actually defend the medical standard stated on their requirements page or not, I have no idea. They would appear to be in really tenuous legal grounds under the ADA were they to choose to do so. But just having the requirement posted must certainly deter many people who cannot meet that standard. The problem, of course, is for a candidate to be able to demonstrate that they were NOT selected BECAUSE they did not meet that standard, though I suppose a lawsuit (perhaps even a class action lawsuit) could be initiated by ATPs otherwise qualified claiming they were being discriminated against and opening the who,e selection process up to discovery. The simple threat of doing that alone might make American reconsider their policy of second-guessing the federal air surgeon on medical matters.
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Well, in this case AmericanAirlines has established their own medical REQUIREMENT, above and beyond that required (and arguably permitted) by law. Whether they actually do testing on their applicants or not, and whether they would actually defend the medical standard stated on their requirements page or not, I have no idea. They would appear to be in really tenuous legal grounds under the ADA were they to choose to do so. But just having the requirement posted must certainly deter many people who cannot meet that standard. The problem, of course, is for a candidate to be able to demonstrate that they were NOT selected BECAUSE they did not meet that standard, though I suppose a lawsuit (perhaps even a class action lawsuit) could be initiated by ATPs otherwise qualified claiming they were being discriminated against and opening the who,e selection process up to discovery. The simple threat of doing that alone might make American reconsider their policy of second-guessing the federal air surgeon on medical matters.
I'm pretty sure the airlines won a court case affirming that the ADA does NOT apply to normal corrective lenses, on the basis that having to wear glasses does not interfere with "normal daily living", so is not a disability. Bizarre.
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I can't quote your quotes but 20/20 distant and 20/40 near are the 67.103 requirements for a first class medical.
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I can't quote your quotes but 20/20 distant and 20/40 near are the 67.103 requirements for a first class medical.

Anything can be SODA'd. Well, almost anything. We have one-eyed pilots flying and I guarantee you they have neither 20/20 distant nor 20/40 near vision in their missing eye.



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Application Process for Medical Certification

Exam Techniques and Criteria for Qualification
Items 31-34. Eye - Monocular Vision


An applicant will be considered monocular when there is only one eye or when the best corrected distant visual acuity in the poorer eye is no better than 20/200. An individual with one eye, or effective visual acuity equivalent to monocular, may be considered for medical certification, any class, through the special issuance section of part 67 (14 CFR 67.401).
In amblyopia ex anopsia, the visual acuity loss is simply recorded in
Item 50 of FAA Form 8500-8, and visual standards are applied as usual. If the standards are not met, a Report of Eye Evaluation, FAA Form 8500-7, should be submitted for consideration.
Although it has been repeatedly demonstrated that binocular vision is not a prerequisite for flying, some aspects of depth perception, either by stereopsis or by monocular cues, are necessary. It takes time for the monocular airman to develop the techniques to interpret the monocular cues that substitute for stereopsis; such as, the interposition of objects, convergence, geometrical perspective, distribution of light and shade, size of known objects, aerial perspective, and motion parallax.
The REQUIREMENTS are for routine approval at the AME level. You would be amazed what can be approved by the federal air surgeon. SODAs for one eye not meeting 20/20 visual acuity standards due to amblyopia ex anopsia - the most common cause of one eye being uncorrectible - are not rare.
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I can't quote your quotes but 20/20 distant and 20/40 near are the 67.103 requirements for a first class medical.
Waiverable. Many (but not all) things are waiverable.
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