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Old 09-12-2018, 10:29 AM
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My student went in to get his medical today and failed the eye portion. He went to the eye doctor the next day and the doctor said he doesn't need glasses. What does he have to do now. I'm at a lost....
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There are several aspects to the "eye portion" but without more specifics maybe have the eye doctor fill out an FAA 8500-7 and take it to the AME?


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My student went in to get his medical today and failed the eye portion. He went to the eye doctor the next day and the doctor said he doesn't need glasses. What does he have to do now. I'm at a lost....
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I'll look into that. I called AOPA for some help. Sadly the FAA is on a 3 month back up.

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There are several aspects to the "eye portion" but without more specifics maybe have the eye doctor fill out an FAA 8500-7 and take it to the AME?
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If it was the color portion of the test, which does indeed involve the eyes then there are other alternate tests that he could take, depending on the degree of color blindness, some are easier to pass than others. It is very important to try the alternate tests before doing the FAA test, since that one is final, if you fail it, you will never in your life fly solo at night.



When I went in for my test, the doc also did some eye test with letters/numbers and a straight line that crossed between a certain letter, and I had to tell him which one. I don't know what that test does, it was done in one of those machines where you stick your eyes via a visor of sorts, perhaps it was that one, it's hard to say.
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He failed the vision test. His eye doctor said he has 20/20...
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He failed the vision test. His eye doctor said he has 20/20...
What PART of the "vision test" did he fail?

Near visual acuity?
Distant visual acuity?
Intermediate visual acuity?
Color vision?

It makes a difference what you do next.
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When I went in for my test, the doc also did some eye test with letters/numbers and a straight line that crossed between a certain letter, and I had to tell him which one. I don't know what that test does, it was done in one of those machines where you stick your eyes via a visor of sorts, perhaps it was that one, it's hard to say.
Looking for phorias and tropias and assessing for stereopsis. I think the military still does that one but I don't believe the FAA actually has a standard for it. In fact, since they'll give SODAs for monocular pilots, they can't actually take it very seriously.
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The AME didn't tell your student what part he failed? Maybe a phone call to the AME with your student present would shed some light?
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I'll have to call the AME then. He's leaving me in the dark. Thanks for the feedback guys.
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I'll have to call the AME then. He's leaving me in the dark. Thanks for the feedback guys.
No. Your STUDENT will have to call the AME. If the AME gives you that information he/she is in a lot of trouble.

Does your student not speak adequate English to understand what is going on him/her self? I've never heard of an AME not explaining to a pilot what disqualifying defect they had.

It is possible it is totally unrelated to vision but your student is simply claiming that to avoid divulging to you what the real problem is.
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