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Troymh 06-20-2018 05:04 PM

Failed Medical- Does FAA Verify Information
 
I failed a first-class med 4 years ago for being on Prozac. Fought it for a year and gave up. Fast forward, I want to fly professionally again. I'm honestly planning on being dishonest with the FAA on the medical history form. I learned 4 years ago that honesty can throw you into a bureaucratic-black-hole. Does anybody know if they'll look at past FAA exams?

PerfInit 06-20-2018 06:02 PM

Getting my popcorn ready cuz this outta be a good show! Would it be worth it to you to risk permanently losing every FAA certificate you have? Intentional Falsification on an FAA application is a very serious offense.

SonicFlyer 06-20-2018 06:08 PM

Yes, and you are talking about committing a federal pound-me-in-the-ass-prison felony here :rolleyes:

Troymh 06-20-2018 07:19 PM


Originally Posted by PerfInit (Post 2618418)
Getting my popcorn ready cuz this outta be a good show! Would it be worth it to you to risk permanently losing every FAA certificate you have? Intentional Falsification on an FAA application is a very serious offense.

Thank you captain obvious.

Troymh 06-20-2018 07:23 PM


Originally Posted by SonicFlyer (Post 2618424)
Yes, and you are talking about committing a federal pound-me-in-the-ass-prison felony here :rolleyes:

Thanks for responding. Do you have first-hand knowledge of this? You're taking it in the ass comment makes me question your credibility. Sorry if I'm mistaken. It was funny and I'm aware it's not legal. I'm also aware pilots bend the truth every day in these matters if it's not going to affect their ability to do their job safely.

Droopy 06-20-2018 07:39 PM

https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-n...al-application

https://www.oig.dot.gov/sites/defaul...ony_july17.pdf

Pilot sentenced in Sacramento after using false documents to fly | The Sacramento Bee

https://www.aopa.org/news-and-media/...-falsification

https://www.aopa.org/news-and-media/...al-application

But do what you want...

The alternative is to get some help/advice from an aeromedical organization (AOPA is good, but there are others), figure out what the FAA requires, and do that.

Troymh 06-20-2018 08:33 PM

Thank you
 

Originally Posted by Droopy (Post 2618494)

Thanks for all the effort. Exactly what I needed. Weird the AF didn't care but the FAA has made it so difficult.

Excargodog 06-20-2018 08:38 PM

Absolutely they check it. In fact, when you input info on medxpress the computer automatically flags any discrepancy that obvious although that info may or may not be given to the AME who typically can only access (but not change) the histories on people he personally did the physical on. But both regional flight surgeons and Oklahoma City have access to everything, and will be on the phone to the AME within one business day of you actually signing the paperwork, because that's when the crime is actually committed.

But Troymh, what is your motivation here? HISTORY of taking Prozac is not necessarily disqualifying. Are you intending to simply continue taking it without telling anyone? That too is of course illegal, but if you've stopped NEEDING it and your underlying depression has resolved, simple history of depression is something waiverable assuming you get a proper work up that demonstrates your problems have resolved.

Of course, they catch you lying to them, you are probably screwed for good - and they WILL catch you if you falsely report information they already know about you.

Excargodog 06-20-2018 08:42 PM


Originally Posted by Troymh (Post 2618519)
Thanks for all the effort. Exactly what I needed. Weird the AF didn't care but the FAA has made it so difficult.


The USAF let you fly on Prozac? Knowingly? I don't believe it. What base and what aircraft?

Troymh 06-20-2018 09:05 PM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 2618522)
Absolutely they check it. In fact, when you input info on medxpress the computer automatically flags any discrepancy that obvious although that info may or may not be given to the AME who typically can only access (but not change) the histories on people he personally did the physical on. But both regional flight surgeons and Oklahoma City have access to everything, and will be on the phone to the AME within one business day of you actually signing the paperwork, because that's when the crime is actually committed.

But Troymh, what is your motivation here? HISTORY of taking Prozac is not necessarily disqualifying. Are you intending to simply continue taking it without telling anyone? That too is of course illegal, but if you've stopped NEEDING it and your underlying depression has resolved, simple history of depression is something waiverable assuming you get a proper work up that demonstrates your problems have resolved.

Of course, they catch you lying to them, you are probably screwed for good - and they WILL catch you if you falsely report information they already know about you.

Thank you for the information. It's clear that deception would be crazy. I haven't taken Prozac in years but I have to find a shrink to say I don't need it, then wait 6 months and somehow prove I haven't used it...go figure. They have all my VA records which contain PTSD stuff so I was hoping to avoid it coming up again. Think I'll keep my feet on the ground. Guess I've flown and seen enough. Thanks again.


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