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Old 09-12-2018, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Web265 View Post
There are several aspects to the "eye portion" but without more specifics maybe have the eye doctor fill out an FAA 8500-7 and take it to the AME?
This, have the eye doctor fill out the 8500-7. Take that to the AME, the AME then will not have to administer a vision test.

Additionally, I have trouble passing a vision test with one of the DMV style machines. The machine tries to trick your eyes into distance vision. It doesn’t work for everybody. If it’s a traditional eye chart, I easily pass. Maybe your student has a similar problem?I just go to an AME that uses a traditional chart.
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Old 09-13-2018, 08:05 AM
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"...depending on the degree of color blindness....It is very important to try the alternate tests before doing the FAA test, since that one is final, if you fail it, you will never in your life fly solo at night."

WRONG.

Please don't burst people's bubble with incorrect information.

I am Color-Blind. I failed the Color Vision test. I had the Solo Night Restriction and then did both the First and Second Class Medical tests for demonstrated ability and had the restriction removed.

I have been flying for 44 years...30 of those flying 121 operations for 3 different airlines.

Typed in: CE-500, B-727, B-737, B-747-2, B-747-4


Color Blindness is NOT a Game Ender.

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Old 09-13-2018, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Stimpy the Kat View Post
"...depending on the degree of color blindness....It is very important to try the alternate tests before doing the FAA test, since that one is final, if you fail it, you will never in your life fly solo at night."

WRONG.

Please don't burst people's bubble with incorrect information.

I am Color-Blind. I failed the Color Vision test. I had the Solo Night Restriction and then did both the First and Second Class Medical tests for demonstrated ability and had the restriction removed.

I have been flying for 44 years...30 of those flying 121 operations for 3 different airlines.

Typed in: CE-500, B-727, B-737, B-747-2, B-747-4


Color Blindness is NOT a Game Ender.

Thanks.



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I think you misunderstood my statement. I was urging people who failed the color portion of their eye exam to seek one of the FAA’s alternate tests like the Farnsworth Lantern Test or others before going and taking the demonstrated ability one with the FAA since it appears that one is final. If you fail it, that is it. Where as you can keep cycling through the alternate tests until you find one that you can pass, and with people with borderline color blindness, like for example, I was one plate away from passing, it’s better to just look for an alternate test than to gamble my whole career on the whims of some FAA examiner.

I wish one could take the demonstrated ability test (OCVT) more than once, since if you pass it that one is final as well, you’re good for life, and who knows, I might take it the second time around. I’m also only talking Class 1 Medical here, I perhaps did jump the gun there, since I don’t know anything about 2, and 3.

The FedEx crash put a hamper on things, before that you could apperantly go to an eye doc, pass some alternate test and you’d get a SODA good for life, but that was before 2008.

There’s also a thread that I read, either here on APC or Reddit about a guy who was tired of doing alternate tests and just went ahead and did the OCVT, he detailed the whole thing perfectly, for anyone interested.

All I know is that if I would have been guided to take that test and somehow managed to fail it, I would be devastated, and I don’t want that to happen to anyone.

Also, for anyone reading this. Perhaps the best advice is to just take the OCVT, that’s what my AME suggested. I’m no authority in these matters, and only offer an opinion. I know that these posts stay on forever, so I don’t want lead anyone astray.

https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/avs/offices/aam/ame/guide/media/Color%20Vision%20Testing%20Flowchart.pdf
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Old 09-18-2018, 11:00 AM
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The military has a depth perception test and I've heard more people failed this test than passing it.
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Old 09-18-2018, 03:01 PM
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Update: Student left out some information and or either lied to me. We got it figured out. He has to go back with his newly prescribed glasses and retest.
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Old 09-18-2018, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyingDawgg View Post
Update: Student left out some information and or either lied to me. We got it figured out. He has to go back with his glasses and retest.
Glasses usually help for me.
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Old 09-19-2018, 01:09 PM
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" Student left out some information and or either lied to me."

Sometimes...The seat attachments and doors have been known to fail simultaneously in certain High-Wing training aircraft.

I'm just sayin', Ya know....Sometimes.

It happens.





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