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Old 06-19-2019, 09:12 AM   #1  
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So I went to a new doctor about a year ago and the doctor noticed that i had my tonsils out and she asked me when it was done I told here I don't know because I completely didn't remember about it. Later i talked to my mother who said I was 3 or 4 when I had my tonsils removed and I also had tubes put in my ear around the same time she also reminded me about a procedure they did on my ear around 2009 or 2010 where they did something for a perforated ear drum. After I talked to my mom about this i don't think i reported these of my first medical in 2015 (i was 17 turning 18 at the time)because all of this was so long ago I forgot about it to be honest. So my question is on my next medical should I just tell the ame or go through a medical consulting first like amas or aopa before the ame. Also could they accuse me of lying even though it was so long ago and I didn't remember.
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Fuggedaboutit.

Nobody is going to hammer you for not reporting procedures that were done on you before kindergarten. Nor are they going to take issue if you DO decide to report them on subsequent medical histories. Before it would ever get to the enforcement people it would have to be referred to them by the docs at OKC who would probably smile briefly before wondering if they had reported that stuff on their own physical histories.

A childhood history of seizures, on the other hand, they’d like to know about.
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At that age if there's no documentation that you ever knew about it, you have plausible deniability. Might be safer to report it now in case you ever have related issues and the medical paperwork reveals the past surgeries. FAA might get upset if they assume you did know and didn't report it. If you just report it now with an explanation that you didn't remember childhood treament they can't fault you for that.

Might want to talk to AMAS though, just to be safe. Also to make sure the tubes won't be a certification problem.
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At that age if there's no documentation that you ever knew about it, you have plausible deniability. Might be safer to report it now in case you ever have related issues and the medical paperwork reveals the past surgeries. FAA might get upset if they assume you did know and didn't report it. If you just report it now with an explanation that you didn't remember childhood treament they can't fault you for that.

Might want to talk to AMAS though, just to be safe. Also to make sure the tubes won't be a certification problem.

History of tubes is not a certification problem. In fact tubes aren't much of a certification problem. Stuka pilots in North Africa in WWII got prophylactic ear drum holes +/- tube placement because of the frequency of ear blocks dive bombing with an unpressurized aircraft.


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Pathology of the middle ear may be demonstrated by changes in the appearance and mobility of the tympanic membrane. The applicant may only complain of stuffiness of the ears and/or loss of hearing. An upper respiratory infection greatly increases the risk of aerotitis media with pain, deafness, tinnitus, and vertigo due to lessened aeration of the middle ear from eustachian tube dysfunction.

When the applicant is taking medication for an ENT condition, it is important that the Examiner become fully aware of the underlying pathology, present status, and the length of time the medication has been used. If the condition is not a threat to aviation safety, the treatment consists solely of antibiotics, and the antibiotics have been taken over a sufficient period to rule out the likelihood of adverse side effects, the Examiner may make the certification decision. The same approach should be taken when considering the significance of prior surgery such as myringotomy, mastoidectomy, or tympanoplasty.

Simple perforation without associated symptoms or pathology is not disqualifying
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Thanks for the answers i was talking to my parents earlier today and they said the tubes fell out a long time ago so they are not in my ears any more. Also about the records portion my parents don't have any copies of my childhood medical records and the insurance company said that paper records are only kept 10 years after date of service so they probably don't exist so what would I do if the FAA wanted more info.
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Thanks for the answers i was talking to my parents earlier today and they said the tubes fell out a long time ago so they are not in my ears any more. Also about the records portion my parents don't have any copies of my childhood medical records and the insurance company said that paper records are only kept 10 years after date of service so they probably don't exist so what would I do if the FAA wanted more info.
Read the above. It is ENTIRELY at the discretion of your AME to approve your physical even with this history. He/She has already done the physical and was satisfied with your status. This is a nonissue. They are not going to want additional information.

If it makes you feel better, call up your regional air surgeon and he/she will reassure you, even add the history in after the fact if you want.

It is OK. Had you provided the information initially, the outcome of your physical would not have been different.
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