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rickair7777 05-14-2024 06:15 AM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 3802247)
The difference between "personality" and "personality disorder" is the extent to which it actually interferes with daily function. If it significantly affects daily function it is by definition a disorder and needs to be treated.

The problem is that there is a whole industry out there that is incentivized by their own economic interests in treating personalities as disorders, and for many of those people SSRIs are viewed as being in the same category as daily vitamins,. And even more effective (and less FAA concerning) modalities like cognitive behavioral therapy require a diagnosis of "disorder" for the insurance company to cover the cost of treatment. And that is doubly problematic because as was learned with the ADD "epidemic" and really through out medicine, it becomes fairly common for people to "become" their diagnosis once an authority figure "awards" them one, no matter if it is an exaggeration or an outright error, and the FAA pretty much defaults to the assumption that the diagnosis once given is correct.

That's a good way of saying it.

TransWorld 05-14-2024 08:47 AM

Howard Hughes was an outlier.

METO Guido 05-14-2024 09:29 AM


Originally Posted by TransWorld (Post 3802315)
Howard Hughes was an outlier.

Just a man, except for the peas:)

Hughes always ate the same thing for dinner: a New York strip steak cooked medium rare, dinner salad, and peas, but only the smaller ones, pushing the larger ones aside.

directtolav 05-14-2024 02:50 PM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 3802247)
The difference between "personality" and "personality disorder" is the extent to which it actually interferes with daily function. If it significantly affects daily function it is by definition a disorder and needs to be treated.

The problem is that there is a whole industry out there that is incentivized by their own economic interests in treating personalities as disorders, and for many of those people SSRIs are viewed as being in the same category as daily vitamins,. And even more effective (and less FAA concerning) modalities like cognitive behavioral therapy require a diagnosis of "disorder" for the insurance company to cover the cost of treatment. And that is doubly problematic because as was learned with the ADD "epidemic" and really through out medicine, it becomes fairly common for people to "become" their diagnosis once an authority figure "awards" them one, no matter if it is an exaggeration or an outright error, and the FAA pretty much defaults to the assumption that the diagnosis once given is correct.

Thanks for the input. Like you said, I don't look forward to a diagnosis but understand it is a means to an end in regards to getting insurance to cover treatment. Also, I have no plan to hop on any SSRI I may be prescribed because I've seen that the drug use seems to sometimes be more damaging to receiving your medical than the condition itself.

METO Guido 05-14-2024 03:14 PM

And another patient knows better than treating physician? Everybody commenting above has OCD in one form or another. For sure. Pilots earn pay for proficiency and judgement. If you haven’t that, not for you. Hold your own hand.

PineappleXpres 05-14-2024 05:27 PM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 3802247)
The difference between "personality" and "personality disorder" is the extent to which it actually interferes with daily function. If it significantly affects daily function it is by definition a disorder and needs to be treated.

The problem is that there is a whole industry out there that is incentivized by their own economic interests in treating personalities as disorders, and for many of those people SSRIs are viewed as being in the same category as daily vitamins,. And even more effective (and less FAA concerning) modalities like cognitive behavioral therapy require a diagnosis of "disorder" for the insurance company to cover the cost of treatment. And that is doubly problematic because as was learned with the ADD "epidemic" and really through out medicine, it becomes fairly common for people to "become" their diagnosis once an authority figure "awards" them one, no matter if it is an exaggeration or an outright error, and the FAA pretty much defaults to the assumption that the diagnosis once given is correct.

ADD untreated leads to delayed literacy, behavioral problems, and poor self esteem. Medication helps children get through adolescence while their brains eventually catch up. You know not of what you speak and untreated ADD is worse than mistakenly treated ADD since as the child grows up, it will sort itself out. Learning and self esteem intact.

NotScottKirby76 05-14-2024 05:43 PM

Don't Do it
 
Don't do it

METO Guido 05-14-2024 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by PineappleXpres (Post 3802491)
ADD untreated leads to delayed literacy, behavioral problems, and poor self esteem. Medication helps children get through adolescence while their brains eventually catch up. You know not of what you speak and untreated ADD is worse than mistakenly treated ADD since as the child grows up, it will sort itself out. Learning and self esteem intact.


True in many cases. To say nothing of the impact on siblings and parents. Weight treatment given the best odds. There’s bound to be an element of risk either way.

PineappleXpres 05-14-2024 08:00 PM


Originally Posted by METO Guido (Post 3802518)
True in many cases. To say nothing of the impact on siblings and parents. Weight treatment given the best odds. There’s bound to be an element of risk either way.

Absolutely. And those who say ADD is made up is akin to the likes of saying sexual orientation is a choice. “It’s not me, and I can’t taste it or smell, therefore it doesn’t exist.” That political truth is destructive and unhelpful to those affected.

Excargodog 05-15-2024 04:29 AM


Originally Posted by PineappleXpres (Post 3802531)
Absolutely. And those who say ADD is made up is akin to the likes of saying sexual orientation is a choice. ....That political truth is destructive and unhelpful to those affected.

I don't get your analogy. Did you mean to put a "not" in there somewhere?


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