FAA medical crime question
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FAA medical crime question
I have a employee who is pursuing his degree in aviation and currently has his pilots license. He received a DUI last year and a resisting arrest misdemeanor at the same time. He filled out the paper work to renew his medical and put the DUI down but for some reason, he did not put down the resisting arrest. He is now worried about the ramifications of being accused of lying on the form. He had no reason to leave it off since he disclosed the DUI and he is wondering what to do. The medical has not been finished yet and I think he should call and let them know that he forgot to include it before they find it and officially turn it down. Any opinions on what he should do. If he does loose his medical what other options does he have if any to still fly? I told him he should consider going into Aviation Management. Any help would be appreciated.
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Shawn M
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Shawn M
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Shawn,
A resisting arrest record probably isn't going to disqualify him from obtaining a medical, but it's something that does need to be reported on the form. I'd suggest that he simply call the FAA at the contact below and request information about how he can amend his application. Do it soon.
Aerospace Medical Certification Division, AAM-300
Federal Aviation Administration
Civil Aerospace Medical Institute
P.O. Box 25082
Oklahoma City, OK 73125
(405) 954-4821
With regards to obtaining a job flying, that's more of an uphill battle given his record. DUI and misdemeanors don't automatically disqualify somebody, but he will need to show that he completely regrets his actions and has taken steps to improve himself and learn from the experience. A record of AA and counseling is a good start and shows proactivity on his part. Obviously the longer he goes without another incident on his record, the better off he is.
A resisting arrest record probably isn't going to disqualify him from obtaining a medical, but it's something that does need to be reported on the form. I'd suggest that he simply call the FAA at the contact below and request information about how he can amend his application. Do it soon.
Aerospace Medical Certification Division, AAM-300
Federal Aviation Administration
Civil Aerospace Medical Institute
P.O. Box 25082
Oklahoma City, OK 73125
(405) 954-4821
With regards to obtaining a job flying, that's more of an uphill battle given his record. DUI and misdemeanors don't automatically disqualify somebody, but he will need to show that he completely regrets his actions and has taken steps to improve himself and learn from the experience. A record of AA and counseling is a good start and shows proactivity on his part. Obviously the longer he goes without another incident on his record, the better off he is.
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FlyerJosh is absolutely correct. Don't wait. Contact the FAA now. You do not want to be viewed as a liar.
My situation is a litte different. I'm applying for my 1st Class Medical for the first time. Sent off for the NCIC report and came clean from the giddyup; 1 bad check conviction and 3 dropped charges - bad check; battery; felony burgulary. FWIW, the local AME is backing me 100%.
I always wanted to be an airline pilot and I can tell you this...this is a very humbling experience !!! I should hear from the FAA within a week or so. If I'm awarded my medical, I'll probably feel like the character that Will Smith portrayed in the movie, "The Pursuit of Happyness". If any of you saw the movie, remember how the character reacted when called in and told he had gotten the position. That's about how I would feel and react.
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My situation is a litte different. I'm applying for my 1st Class Medical for the first time. Sent off for the NCIC report and came clean from the giddyup; 1 bad check conviction and 3 dropped charges - bad check; battery; felony burgulary. FWIW, the local AME is backing me 100%.
I always wanted to be an airline pilot and I can tell you this...this is a very humbling experience !!! I should hear from the FAA within a week or so. If I'm awarded my medical, I'll probably feel like the character that Will Smith portrayed in the movie, "The Pursuit of Happyness". If any of you saw the movie, remember how the character reacted when called in and told he had gotten the position. That's about how I would feel and react.
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I hope he reported the DUI to the FAA when he got it. I was a student pilot and I was arrested for DUI. At that point I wasn't fully aware of having to report this to the FAA nor did my flight instructor advise me to do so. When I went to get a medical (after the DUI, and after becoming a private pilot) I did disclose this info on the medical form. Not too long after that I received a certified letter from the FAA. They basically said we are investigating you, you never reported this, your license may be suspended or revoked, etc... long story short, no revocation or suspension took place. But talk about a stressful time
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I hope he reported the DUI to the FAA when he got it. I was a student pilot and I was arrested for DUI. At that point I wasn't fully aware of having to report this to the FAA nor did my flight instructor advise me to do so. When I went to get a medical (after the DUI, and after becoming a private pilot) I did disclose this info on the medical form. Not too long after that I received a certified letter from the FAA. They basically said we are investigating you, you never reported this, your license may be suspended or revoked, etc... long story short, no revocation or suspension took place. But talk about a stressful time
Knowledge requirements to hold a Studend License and Third Class Medical = zero.
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I hope he reported the DUI to the FAA when he got it. I was a student pilot and I was arrested for DUI. At that point I wasn't fully aware of having to report this to the FAA nor did my flight instructor advise me to do so. When I went to get a medical (after the DUI, and after becoming a private pilot) I did disclose this info on the medical form. Not too long after that I received a certified letter from the FAA. They basically said we are investigating you, you never reported this, your license may be suspended or revoked, etc... long story short, no revocation or suspension took place. But talk about a stressful time
Man; I know exactly how you felt during that time b/c I'm experiencing it right now. I making no decisions about anything that has to do with flight training, etc. until I hear from them.
As a matter of fact, today marks 30 days from the time they received all the info to make a determination concerning my application. I should hear from them any day now. Talk about nerve racking!!!
atp
#8
Well, best of luck to you. Only advice I can give is keep your chin up, nobody is perfect, and try not to lose too much sleep over it.
Yeah, I did the same thing....I took about 3 years off from training. I had this mindset of, "nobody is going to hire me, so I might as well give up." But after talking to a few pilots they told me not to give up and keep chasing my dream. So I did, and if it wasn't for them I wouldn't be where I'm at now.
Yeah, I did the same thing....I took about 3 years off from training. I had this mindset of, "nobody is going to hire me, so I might as well give up." But after talking to a few pilots they told me not to give up and keep chasing my dream. So I did, and if it wasn't for them I wouldn't be where I'm at now.
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#9
I have a question, how do you go about reporting something that you failed to report on a previous medical? Example, I failed to recall that I was allergic to hay when I was a youngin while I was filling out the 8500 form. Do I need to amend my medical on file for that? wait till I take the next medical, and then report it? Should I just refer to the above FAA contact info listed?
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I have a question, how do you go about reporting something that you failed to report on a previous medical? Example, I failed to recall that I was allergic to hay when I was a youngin while I was filling out the 8500 form. Do I need to amend my medical on file for that? wait till I take the next medical, and then report it? Should I just refer to the above FAA contact info listed?
I would say that since it was when you were a youngster, I'd just wait until the next medical.
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