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MidNightRider 01-13-2011 11:22 AM

When Medical Certificate Expires?
 
I thought I knew the answer, but now I'm not sure.
- As an part 121 FO, I got a Class I Med Certificate February 2010. Does this certificate expire at the end of February or end of March?

FAA web site says:
"A first class medical certificate is valid for the remainder of the month of issue; plus
  • 6 calendar months for operations requiring a first class medical certificate if the airman is age 40 or over on or before the date of the examination, or
  • 12-calendar months for operations requiring a first-class medical certificate if the airman has not reached age 40 on or before the date of examination, or
  • 12 calendar months for operations requiring a second class medical certificate, or"
Thanks for the help.

N9373M 01-13-2011 11:46 AM

I was told there would be no math
 
I thought and was taught it would expire at the end of same month issued.

I seem to recall this was a question on the private written, and that was the correct answer.

That first line "A first class medical certificate is valid for the remainder of the month of issue; plus" is confusing.

chuckyt1 01-13-2011 12:37 PM

The end of February is "plus" twelve months. It expires March 1st.

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FlyerJosh 01-13-2011 02:38 PM

Actually to be perfectly correct it would expire on the last day of the following February at 11:59:59 local. IE on March 1 you couldn't use it.

N9373M 01-13-2011 02:58 PM

Well there's three posts in a row that agree!! An APC first? :)

chuckyt1 01-13-2011 07:54 PM


Originally Posted by FlyerJosh (Post 929663)
Actually to be perfectly correct it would expire on the last day of the following February at 11:59:59 local. IE on March 1 you couldn't use it.

Close. However, to be perfectly correct, 11:59:59 is still the last day of February. The medical would still be good at 11:59:59, (23:59:59). It won't expire until 00:00. Which would occur on March 1st.:D

clipperskipper 01-14-2011 09:45 AM

Okay a third class medical which was issued to a 39 year old pilot 02-29-2008, when would it expire?

N9373M 01-14-2011 10:13 AM


Originally Posted by clipperskipper (Post 930067)
Okay a third class medical which was issued to a 39 year old pilot 02-29-2008, when would it expire?

2/28/2011 would be it's last day.

rickair7777 01-14-2011 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by N9373M (Post 930083)
2/28/2011 would be it's last day.

No, it's last day would be 2/28/2013.

N9373M 01-14-2011 10:37 AM

2008+3 = 2011

Twin Wasp 01-14-2011 06:47 PM

The reg says the medical expires on a date based on your age on the date of the exam. So a PVT pilot should go out on the day before their 40th birthday and get a new medical to save money since it will be valid for 60 months which equals 5 years. Nothing expires after 36 months.

N9373M 01-15-2011 03:56 AM

Whoops
 

Originally Posted by Twin Wasp (Post 930335)
The reg says the medical expires on a date based on your age on the date of the exam. So a PVT pilot should go out on the day before their 40th birthday and get a new medical to save money since it will be valid for 60 months which equals 5 years. Nothing expires after 36 months.

Apologies to rick and wasp. I missed that rule change, from 3 to 5. I'm >40 so I guess it was either: not seen, forgotten, or ignored.

Thanks!

N9373M 01-15-2011 08:02 AM

When did the Class III for <40 go from 36 months to 60 months?

I wish they would do away with Class 3 altogether.

TI 3VOM 01-15-2011 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by N9373M (Post 930514)
When did the Class III for <40 go from 36 months to 60 months?

It changed over a year ago

clipperskipper 01-16-2011 11:21 AM


Originally Posted by N9373M (Post 930514)
When did the Class III for <40 go from 36 months to 60 months?

I wish they would do away with Class 3 altogether.

Thought it was a challenging question when I wrote it, why do away with the Class 3, it's all most private pilots require?

N9373M 01-16-2011 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by clipperskipper (Post 931032)
Thought it was a challenging question when I wrote it, why do away with the Class 3, it's all most private pilots require?

The merits of a Driver's License in lieu of a Class 3 medical for GA has been a topic for debate for almost a decade. The incidence of incapacitation in GA is statistically small. There are arguments to be made on both sides of the table.

jonnyjetprop 01-16-2011 12:20 PM

The biggest issue with getting away from a third class medical is that folks only think of a guy flying a C-172 as using a 3rd class medical. Nobody thinks of the Jack Rouch's of the world flying jets under FAR 91. Were do you draw the line? While some might say the C-172 driver doesn't need a medical, few would feel that a jet (John Travolta's B707) doesn't need one.

The second thing to watch is how the whole LSA movement pans out. I see many self certifying pilots not really assessing if they are fit to fly. The open question is "Will the number of pilot incapacitations rise?"


Originally Posted by N9373M (Post 931045)
The merits of a Driver's License in lieu of a Class 3 medical for GA has been a topic for debate for almost a decade. The incidence of incapacitation in GA is statistically small. There are arguments to be made on both sides of the table.


N9373M 01-16-2011 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by jonnyjetprop (Post 931060)
The biggest issue with getting away from a third class medical is that folks only think of a guy flying a C-172 as using a 3rd class medical. Nobody thinks of the Jack Rouch's of the world flying jets under FAR 91. Were do you draw the line? While some might say the C-172 driver doesn't need a medical, few would feel that a jet (John Travolta's B707) doesn't need one.

The second thing to watch is how the whole LSA movement pans out. I see many self certifying pilots not really assessing if they are fit to fly. The open question is "Will the number of pilot incapacitations rise?"

That's the issue. Will those that self certify follow the letter of the law? Some will, Some won't. There's a lot in the GA world that's on the honor system: night currency, 6+6+Hold/tracking for IFR, etc.

I see my GP for regular physicals, etc. Why do I need to see an AME to tell me I'm still not color blind? I would surmise that those that know they will fail a Class 3 aren't going to get one and possibly fly anyway.

You raise some very interesting points - well done


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