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Old 01-23-2012, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by flyingpertyhigh View Post
I think I'm 75% there as far as choosing another career. Even if I do get my medical back following the FAA's steps as you guys mentioned, I still have the issue of getting hired with a DUI on my record.
With that said, flying still isn't something I'm really willing to give up - I've been flying since I was 15, soloed on my 16th license on my 17th etc etc. I'm still in my (late) 20s so flying is all I really know/knew. Whether or not it ultimately is a career, I'm still not willing to give it up. I contacted leftseat dot com for additional information.
Is the inpatient something like a sober house where you still have the option of leaving to go to a job during the day, or is it truly inpatient, such as in a clinic setting. I just don't have enough $$ sitting around to give up a month of income.
Thanks again
I got a DUI. It happened just after the FAA implented stricter guidelines for first-time offenders. One DUI used to be handled at the discretion of your AME, and this is still the case if you blow under 15. But if you blow 15 or over, or if you refuse, your AME is required to defer your medical application to Oke City for review.

In my case, I refused the breath test. The process took several months, and I used that time to start researching what I may have to do should my medical be denied. So to answer your question, yes, it is truly a 30 day inpatient rehab in a clinical setting. So you would obviously lose a month of income. And without medical insurance, expect to pay about $12,000 to $15,000 for the 30 day program.

Then obviously there are costs associated with the IOP (intensive outpatient program), which is required following the in-patient. And if you utilize a company like leftseat, there are cost associated with that.

There is another possibility. Oke City can further defer your application to DC, in which case you will be required to undergo an very thorough examination by an FAA appointed doctor. I think the evaluation may take an entire day or two, also at your expense.. in the range of $3000. If they determine that you do not suffer from any mental/psychological illness (such as alcoholism), you will get your medical back without the treatment. But blowing a 21 and driving.. its gonna be hard to convince anybody that you are not in need of some type of treatment.

If you are single, without children, and want a flying career very badly, and you had someway of getting the money required, I would do the treatment. But if you don't think you are not an alcoholic, or if you have a wife and kids to support, or if you don't believe you can get a job, then definitely your time and money is better spent moving on.

You COULD get a job, by the way. It wouldn't be an airline job but that may be one of the hidden blessings. No offense to airline guys, there just seems to be a lot of discontent. Anyway, don't want to go off on a tanget. I hope I helped answer some of your questions and happy to answer anymore that you may have.
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Old 01-23-2012, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by satpak77 View Post
I believe the Captain got pardoned and came back to NWA in the role of Sim Instructor or similar and retired with full benefits.
The FO* eventually got hired at American, the book was called "flying drunk".

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Old 01-23-2012, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by flyingpertyhigh View Post
I think I'm 75% there as far as choosing another career. Even if I do get my medical back following the FAA's steps as you guys mentioned, I still have the issue of getting hired with a DUI on my record.
With that said, flying still isn't something I'm really willing to give up - I've been flying since I was 15, soloed on my 16th license on my 17th etc etc. I'm still in my (late) 20s so flying is all I really know/knew. Whether or not it ultimately is a career, I'm still not willing to give it up. I contacted leftseat dot com for additional information.
Is the inpatient something like a sober house where you still have the option of leaving to go to a job during the day, or is it truly inpatient, such as in a clinic setting. I just don't have enough $$ sitting around to give up a month of income.
Thanks again
If your medical is revoked and your income is from being a CFI, how are you still making money now? No medical, no flying, no paycheck. I didn't read the entire 3 page thread, so if I missed something, I do apologize.
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Old 01-27-2012, 05:12 AM
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Originally Posted by topprospect16 View Post
If your medical is revoked and your income is from being a CFI, how are you still making money now? No medical, no flying, no paycheck. I didn't read the entire 3 page thread, so if I missed something, I do apologize.
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Old 01-27-2012, 08:02 AM
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Can't you still be a CFI without a medical under certain circumstances??
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Old 01-27-2012, 08:04 AM
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Can't you still be a CFI without a medical under certain circumstances??
Yea - so long as my student is at least a private pilot with a valid medical. That cuts out about 90% of students, plus I could never do anything else besides instruct.
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Old 03-04-2012, 06:49 AM
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I just got my medical after ONE YEAR of jumping through the FAA's hoops.

I got a DUI in 2007 and applied for my medical in March 2011. That DUI is the ONLY thing on my record BTW and it still took a year.

The reason it took so long is because I blew a .22 and the FAA's cut off at the time for tollerance and dependency issue was .20. They have recently reaised that to a .25

If you are worried about getting a job, I wouldn't be. Maybe you wont fly with an airline immediatly but there are so many locally owned flying jobs out there owned by guys that have recieved DUI's and worse. Shoot Ive heard of a few Ag pilots that dont even have drivers liscences.

Appeal their revocation and as long as you have professional evidence that says you dont have a dependency issue I dont see why you would not get your medical back. It might take some time but it is worth it.

I bought an airplane right before I applied and this last year has been the longest in my life but I recieved my 3rd class (not a special issuance!!!) med and SPC in the mail a few days ago.

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Old 11-22-2013, 02:45 PM
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Alright dudes, another request. I got charged with a DUI 15 years ago, all charges dropped. Went to my AME today for the first time since the change in the form and chose that I have been CHARGED with a DUI. All charges were dropped, I blew a .07 at the time, so no aggravated anything there. My AME wants proof the charges were dropped, I only have the paperwork that charges me. I have contacted the court, the police, the DPS.....all do not have records. What do I do??????
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Old 11-22-2013, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 120PC View Post
I just got my medical after ONE YEAR of jumping through the FAA's hoops.

I got a DUI in 2007 and applied for my medical in March 2011. That DUI is the ONLY thing on my record BTW and it still took a year.

The reason it took so long is because I blew a .22 and the FAA's cut off at the time for tollerance and dependency issue was .20. They have recently reaised that to a .25

If you are worried about getting a job, I wouldn't be. Maybe you wont fly with an airline immediatly but there are so many locally owned flying jobs out there owned by guys that have recieved DUI's and worse. Shoot Ive heard of a few Ag pilots that dont even have drivers liscences.

Appeal their revocation and as long as you have professional evidence that says you dont have a dependency issue I dont see why you would not get your medical back. It might take some time but it is worth it.

I bought an airplane right before I applied and this last year has been the longest in my life but I recieved my 3rd class (not a special issuance!!!) med and SPC in the mail a few days ago.

DONT GIVE UP ON YOUR DREAM!!
^^^ Agree- you will have to wait for a major until at least 10 years have passed. A regional that goes to Canada will have probs with a dui because it is considered a felony up there. 5 years after the offense you can apply for admission. You will get your medical back but it is a bit of a climb. One step at a time and stay positive. Good luck
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Originally Posted by Pyro View Post
Alright dudes, another request. I got charged with a DUI 15 years ago, all charges dropped. Went to my AME today for the first time since the change in the form and chose that I have been CHARGED with a DUI. All charges were dropped, I blew a .07 at the time, so no aggravated anything there. My AME wants proof the charges were dropped, I only have the paperwork that charges me. I have contacted the court, the police, the DPS.....all do not have records. What do I do??????
Get legal advice.
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