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Old 11-17-2013, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by tzskipper View Post
I was thinking about this (kind of back of the napkin).... Over 15,000 hours of carrying pax, probably 5000 flights at 100 pax a flight... Meaning 500,000 pax carried, and I do not recall single inflight heart attack of any soul on board. I don't have the brain power to calculate the occurrence of MI inflight, but statistically it has to be almost non-existent.

I don't get it.

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I think the bigger concern is the micro-naps so prevalent among overweight sleep apnea folks due to their constant fatigue. The micro-naps amount to numerous subtle incapacitation events. The FAA is right to be concerned about this.

If the pilot loses weight and gets successful treatment, they can return. If not, they shouldn't return.

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There's a lotta them big fellers senior to me...so that's pretty sweet right there.
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Old 11-17-2013, 06:54 PM
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Makes sense. They're going to start at BMI at 40 and move down, well above 25 you're overweight, bmi over 30 and you're obese.

When this pic was taken



Cam Newton came in at 6'5" and 248 lbs which by definition is a bmi of 29.4.

So that dude is not only overweight he's on the edge of obese. Just look at that fatso.

So if he was a pilot the FAA would put him in a OSA study and yank his medical and then do some flawed fixes that would cost him his career. I mean you can't have a guy who runs the 40 in 4.58 seconds fly a plane, he's nearly obese.

Well, I guess I'm not surprised. My medical requires me to wear glasses at all times. My combined vision is 20/15. The left eye is 20/25 and the right 20/15 so therefore I must wear glasses at all times. Do you know that they don't make lenses for correcting 20/25 to 20/20? I have to get stuff special ordered and it's not the right thing to wear and is considered bad for my long term vision but hey.... it's the FAA.

/Ftb 6'5" 255 and 17.5" neck.
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Thats because BMI is a crock of shizzle
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Old 11-17-2013, 07:27 PM
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Makes sense. They're going to start at BMI at 40 and move down, well above 25 you're overweight, bmi over 30 and you're obese.

When this pic was taken



Cam Newton came in at 6'5" and 248 lbs which by definition is a bmi of 29.4.

So that dude is not only overweight he's on the edge of obese. Just look at that fatso.

So if he was a pilot the FAA would put him in a OSA study and yank his medical and then do some flawed fixes that would cost him his career. I mean you can't have a guy who runs the 40 in 4.58 seconds fly a plane, he's nearly obese.

Well, I guess I'm not surprised. My medical requires me to wear glasses at all times. My combined vision is 20/15. The left eye is 20/25 and the right 20/15 so therefore I must wear glasses at all times. Do you know that they don't make lenses for correcting 20/25 to 20/20? I have to get stuff special ordered and it's not the right thing to wear and is considered bad for my long term vision but hey.... it's the FAA.

/Ftb 6'5" 255 and 17.5" neck.
Wow, FTB and Cam Newton are only 7 lbs apart.

No wonder you get all the women.

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Old 11-17-2013, 07:28 PM
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The way the article reads, having a high BMI and neck size means nothing regarding actual certification.

If you have sleep apnea, (which is already something that is disqualifying) then you will need to get that resolved.

Having a high BMI alone will do nothing at all to your ability to gain a first class medical certificate, according to that article. It appears the FAA is simply trying to start testing for a condition that is already on the no-no list, likely because they feel it is being under-reported.

You could be 5'5" and 450 lbs with a 24" neck, but as long as you don't have sleep apnea and your EKG is alright... you're still flying.
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Old 11-17-2013, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by wmuflyboy View Post
Thats because BMI is a crock of shizzle
I think you're right. If the concern is sleep apnea, then screen for sleep apnea. I think percentage of body fat is a better indicator than BMI.

I'm a bit over 6' and weigh 178. My BMI is very close to the overweight category. If I weighed 40 pounds less, I'd still be in the normal weight range. Yikes.

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Old 11-17-2013, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler View Post
Wow, FTB and Cam Newton are only 7 lbs apart.

No wonder you get all the women.

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No no. If the two of us stood next to each other you would have a great visual on what body fat % means.
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I think that Mesa Captain in 2008 that flew by Hilo had Sleep Apnea. The FAA even put up a brochure on it.

http://www.faa.gov/pilots/safety/pil...leep_Apnea.pdf
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Old 11-17-2013, 08:21 PM
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No no. If the two of us stood next to each other you would have a great visual on what body fat % means.
Oh, I see. Cam would look like a fatass next to you.

No wonder you get all the women.

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