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#421
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2014
Posts: 279
R2= Round 2 line, basically the leftover trips from round 1 post SAP. These are trips mostly on the weekend and either begin very early or late which makes a commute a pain in the ass.
LCR= Long call reserve, 12 hr call out. Meaning they call you and you have 12 hrs to report
SCR= Short call reserve, 2 hr call out. They call and you have 2 hrs to show up.
When you get out of training and finish IOE you will be on SCR at first and then as you gain seniority you will move up the list and be able to hold a flying line.
Reserve means you are an on call pilot that is basically used at the discretion of the company and isn't too much fun. DAY, CVG and DCA all have reserve in the neighborhood of 1-3 months depending on upgrades, amount of flying, new guys coming in behind you, etc.
#422
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2017
Posts: 451
R1= Round 1 line, what everyone wants as you can SAP (scheduled adjustment period) and basically control your schedule.
R2= Round 2 line, basically the leftover trips from round 1 post SAP. These are trips mostly on the weekend and either begin very early or late which makes a commute a pain in the ass.
LCR= Long call reserve, 12 hr call out. Meaning they call you and you have 12 hrs to report
SCR= Short call reserve, 2 hr call out. They call and you have 2 hrs to show up.
When you get out of training and finish IOE you will be on SCR at first and then as you gain seniority you will move up the list and be able to hold a flying line.
Reserve means you are an on call pilot that is basically used at the discretion of the company and isn't too much fun. DAY, CVG and DCA all have reserve in the neighborhood of 1-3 months depending on upgrades, amount of flying, new guys coming in behind you, etc.
R2= Round 2 line, basically the leftover trips from round 1 post SAP. These are trips mostly on the weekend and either begin very early or late which makes a commute a pain in the ass.
LCR= Long call reserve, 12 hr call out. Meaning they call you and you have 12 hrs to report
SCR= Short call reserve, 2 hr call out. They call and you have 2 hrs to show up.
When you get out of training and finish IOE you will be on SCR at first and then as you gain seniority you will move up the list and be able to hold a flying line.
Reserve means you are an on call pilot that is basically used at the discretion of the company and isn't too much fun. DAY, CVG and DCA all have reserve in the neighborhood of 1-3 months depending on upgrades, amount of flying, new guys coming in behind you, etc.
#426
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Joined APC: May 2014
Posts: 279
#428
Line Holder
Joined APC: Sep 2016
Posts: 50
I have a few questions regarding PSA. First, how is the compensation package? Is the 401k program above average for the regional industry? Is the AAL profit sharing program good?
Secondly, I know this question gets asked a lot however I'm still going to ask it. How does the flow through program to AAL stack up compared to the other WO? Is the six to seven year flow feasible?
Finally, if something occurred like a 9/11 or another recession, how would you feel about staying at PSA? Do you feel that it is stable enough to make it through something that large? Would you be fine staying at PSA or do you think another regional airline would have better stability?
Thank you in advance for taking the time to read and answer my questions.
Secondly, I know this question gets asked a lot however I'm still going to ask it. How does the flow through program to AAL stack up compared to the other WO? Is the six to seven year flow feasible?
Finally, if something occurred like a 9/11 or another recession, how would you feel about staying at PSA? Do you feel that it is stable enough to make it through something that large? Would you be fine staying at PSA or do you think another regional airline would have better stability?
Thank you in advance for taking the time to read and answer my questions.
#429
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2016
Posts: 755
I have a few questions regarding PSA. First, how is the compensation package? Is the 401k program above average for the regional industry? Is the AAL profit sharing program good?
Secondly, I know this question gets asked a lot however I'm still going to ask it. How does the flow through program to AAL stack up compared to the other WO? Is the six to seven year flow feasible?
Finally, if something occurred like a 9/11 or another recession, how would you feel about staying at PSA? Do you feel that it is stable enough to make it through something that large? Would you be fine staying at PSA or do you think another regional airline would have better stability?
Thank you in advance for taking the time to read and answer my questions.
Secondly, I know this question gets asked a lot however I'm still going to ask it. How does the flow through program to AAL stack up compared to the other WO? Is the six to seven year flow feasible?
Finally, if something occurred like a 9/11 or another recession, how would you feel about staying at PSA? Do you feel that it is stable enough to make it through something that large? Would you be fine staying at PSA or do you think another regional airline would have better stability?
Thank you in advance for taking the time to read and answer my questions.
I am pretty happy with the compensation. I have made far more than I had expected. I have received a couple raises and a retention bonus that I didn't expect. Training pay is the highest in the regionals that I know of. FO pay is something like $40/hr, with an upgrade in the 24 month range.
The flow is comparable, and they are saying about 6.5 years. What it will actually be is anyones guess. There no way of knowing what it will really be, and who's will work out best. We should be increasing the flow by at least 1 per month this year, and likely 2.
With the SAP, PSA offers just about the best quality of life in the regionals. You can build your own schedule anyway that you want to, once you are a line holder. If they pay were better, or the industry tanked, I could work here for quite a while.
If you want 13 days off and 98 hours credit, you can do it. If you want 18 days off and 65 hours credit, you can do that too.
If you want to drop to 65 hours, and then pick up trips later at "scheduled day off pay", "critical pay", or wait for a junior man call, you can do that too, and make extra money.
We have 100% cancellation pay, and are paid "block or better".
There are negatives at any airline. Reserve rules are terrible, but new hire FOs are not on reserve more than a few months, so it really doesnt matter.
#430
Line Holder
Joined APC: Sep 2016
Posts: 50
If I were looking at regionals, these are not the questions that I would be asking, but I'll answer anyway.
I am pretty happy with the compensation. I have made far more than I had expected. I have received a couple raises and a retention bonus that I didn't expect. Training pay is the highest in the regionals that I know of. FO pay is something like $40/hr, with an upgrade in the 24 month range.
The flow is comparable, and they are saying about 6.5 years. What it will actually be is anyones guess. There no way of knowing what it will really be, and who's will work out best. We should be increasing the flow by at least 1 per month this year, and likely 2.
With the SAP, PSA offers just about the best quality of life in the regionals. You can build your own schedule anyway that you want to, once you are a line holder. If they pay were better, or the industry tanked, I could work here for quite a while.
If you want 13 days off and 98 hours credit, you can do it. If you want 18 days off and 65 hours credit, you can do that too.
If you want to drop to 65 hours, and then pick up trips later at "scheduled day off pay", "critical pay", or wait for a junior man call, you can do that too, and make extra money.
We have 100% cancellation pay, and are paid "block or better".
There are negatives at any airline. Reserve rules are terrible, but new hire FOs are not on reserve more than a few months, so it really doesnt matter.
I am pretty happy with the compensation. I have made far more than I had expected. I have received a couple raises and a retention bonus that I didn't expect. Training pay is the highest in the regionals that I know of. FO pay is something like $40/hr, with an upgrade in the 24 month range.
The flow is comparable, and they are saying about 6.5 years. What it will actually be is anyones guess. There no way of knowing what it will really be, and who's will work out best. We should be increasing the flow by at least 1 per month this year, and likely 2.
With the SAP, PSA offers just about the best quality of life in the regionals. You can build your own schedule anyway that you want to, once you are a line holder. If they pay were better, or the industry tanked, I could work here for quite a while.
If you want 13 days off and 98 hours credit, you can do it. If you want 18 days off and 65 hours credit, you can do that too.
If you want to drop to 65 hours, and then pick up trips later at "scheduled day off pay", "critical pay", or wait for a junior man call, you can do that too, and make extra money.
We have 100% cancellation pay, and are paid "block or better".
There are negatives at any airline. Reserve rules are terrible, but new hire FOs are not on reserve more than a few months, so it really doesnt matter.
As far as your statement on the priority of the questions that I am asking, some of these questions weigh on my scale of importance in the choosing of a regional airline and others are for informational purposes only.
Also, not to be rude but you did not answer most of my questions.
The 401k program is the first thing that you did not mention. I am wondering how would you compare the 401k retirement program to other regional airlines? From what you've heard, would you say it's an above average program? Does PSA match what you put in? Do they provide direct contribution? This is not a primary factor, I am just curious about their principle retirement program.
Also, you did not mention the AAL profit sharing program. Is this program above average compared to other regional airlines? Would you say the average return is a fair amount? Again, this is not a primary factor, I am just curious.
The main thing for me is the stability of PSA. You somewhat answered my question on this topic, but it wasn't completely answered. The most important thing that I wanted to know was this: if the economy crashed or another 9/11 event occurred, in the current conditions would you be fine if you stayed at PSA for another five or ten years? Or do you think another regional airline is better for longer pilot careers? The other principle question you didn't touch on was do you think PSA is stable enough to make it through something that large? Now obviously none of us know the future holds but based on what you know about PSA and AAL, what is your personal opinion?
Thank you again.
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