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06-19-2017, 06:41 AM
#101
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Originally Posted by Beta Ranger
Thanks to PSA Recruiter for all the info on this thread.
Are there any recruiting events scheduled for July with on-site interviews?
Regards
Are there any recruiting events scheduled for July with on-site interviews?
Regards
06-19-2017, 09:30 AM
#104
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Look guys, recruiters are not the problem, and they certainly aren't "segregated" from the pilot group. I think they're all aware that due to sites like this and others that prospective new hire FOs can be pretty well educated from the start, so lying to them is not something that's going to work anyway.
It's always interesting to me that for every person that's on here telling people how bad it is at PSA, there's as many or more than are posting their schedules after the SAP to show off how many days off they have. This latest complete charlie foxtrot of a SAP is no different.
Yes, there are issues that need to be fixed, yes ALPA is working full speed towards that, and yes, management is engaging some of your ALPA volunteers on some of those issues. It may not be the pace we want, but it's not non-existent either.
Regarding flow times, which has come up a few times in this thread, my own math, using pretty detailed attrition data, suggests a new hire will flow in just over 7 years. It is true that our flow rate on paper is much lower than the other wholly owneds, and that 7 year number is driven as much by attrition than anything else. All that said, if anyone thinks they can accurate predict what the regionals will be like in 2-3 years, much less 7, you really need your head examined.
It's always interesting to me that for every person that's on here telling people how bad it is at PSA, there's as many or more than are posting their schedules after the SAP to show off how many days off they have. This latest complete charlie foxtrot of a SAP is no different.
Yes, there are issues that need to be fixed, yes ALPA is working full speed towards that, and yes, management is engaging some of your ALPA volunteers on some of those issues. It may not be the pace we want, but it's not non-existent either.
Regarding flow times, which has come up a few times in this thread, my own math, using pretty detailed attrition data, suggests a new hire will flow in just over 7 years. It is true that our flow rate on paper is much lower than the other wholly owneds, and that 7 year number is driven as much by attrition than anything else. All that said, if anyone thinks they can accurate predict what the regionals will be like in 2-3 years, much less 7, you really need your head examined.
06-19-2017, 09:45 AM
#105
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Originally Posted by PSA Recruiter
1) Not really. You only get a few hours that would even be considered to be "logable". The ATP-CTP class that is offered by most of the airlines are not considered by the FAA to be 121 training, so the airlines need to apply for a 142 to allow students to log the time. Since it is only a couple hours for each student, it is not really worth it. If the class is at CAE or somewhere like that, then you can log it. But I don't know any airlines that conduct the training in house where you are able to log it. Our ATP-CTP is conducted by our instructors and in our sims.
2) According to AA, all of the flows should stabilize at about the same time to flow. That was their plan. But moving forward, there is really no telling how it is going to work out. Ours is increasing (waiting to hear about the flow that we are hopefully adding next month), and is projected to stabilize at 6-7 years, just like everyone else's. Again, this information is from AA, and I know for PSA it is based on high attrition to outside carriers. The flow does not stop you from getting hired at AA outside of the flow.
3) The training is split between Dayton, Charlotte, and Cincinnati. Ground School, Systems, and IPT's are in Dayton, then Charlotte for initial sims. After initial sims, you will be sent to Cincinnati most likely for differences sim on the CRJ200. There are normally 2-5 days off between stages of training so you can go home for a few days. We have no backlogs in training. We cover this in great detail during the interviews.
4) I always suggest that you consult the gouge sites for some baseline information, and then study on your own the materials that you are weak on. We change the written test every few weeks, and the interviews are never 100% the same. The weather changes, but you will have to read a METAR and TAF. The cities/runways change, but you will have to walk me through how to fly a precision and non-precision approach. Be sure to be a current instrument pilot, and know how to read Jepp plates, and you will do fine.
2) According to AA, all of the flows should stabilize at about the same time to flow. That was their plan. But moving forward, there is really no telling how it is going to work out. Ours is increasing (waiting to hear about the flow that we are hopefully adding next month), and is projected to stabilize at 6-7 years, just like everyone else's. Again, this information is from AA, and I know for PSA it is based on high attrition to outside carriers. The flow does not stop you from getting hired at AA outside of the flow.
3) The training is split between Dayton, Charlotte, and Cincinnati. Ground School, Systems, and IPT's are in Dayton, then Charlotte for initial sims. After initial sims, you will be sent to Cincinnati most likely for differences sim on the CRJ200. There are normally 2-5 days off between stages of training so you can go home for a few days. We have no backlogs in training. We cover this in great detail during the interviews.
4) I always suggest that you consult the gouge sites for some baseline information, and then study on your own the materials that you are weak on. We change the written test every few weeks, and the interviews are never 100% the same. The weather changes, but you will have to read a METAR and TAF. The cities/runways change, but you will have to walk me through how to fly a precision and non-precision approach. Be sure to be a current instrument pilot, and know how to read Jepp plates, and you will do fine.
06-19-2017, 10:19 AM
#107
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Originally Posted by flybywp
Is PSA still likely to open a new base next year? Possibly PHL to cover the Air Wisconsin flying?
06-19-2017, 11:47 AM
#108
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Originally Posted by TallFlyer
That's the rumor. Emphasis on rumor. I wouldn't come here if that's the base you really want or need, but it's worth noting that DCA is right down the road.
06-19-2017, 11:48 AM
#109
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Half truths
TF,
We both understand the power of recruitment here at PSA. I has and will drive everything. I choose to not pollute the whole truth with half facts. Rose colored glasses only cost 5 grand. Respectfully, Michael 39%
We both understand the power of recruitment here at PSA. I has and will drive everything. I choose to not pollute the whole truth with half facts. Rose colored glasses only cost 5 grand. Respectfully, Michael 39%
06-19-2017, 10:16 PM
#110
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Work/home life balance
So... I am yet a few months away from starting the RTP training, and I feel like I need more information regarding what a new FO schedule would look like. I'm a family man, and I actually enjoy spending time with my wife. What are the typical trips like if you're based out of CLT (or anywhere else for that matter)? Are there a lot of nights away from home? When the grid says 11 days off minimum per month, are those separate from RLDs? Is there a lot of sitting reserve, or is it mostly short call? These are just questions that have popped up since my interview. I'm sure I'll have more.
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