Thanksgiving Pay
 

Question about Thanksgiving pay.

The way I understood the LOA was that as long as you didn't drop the trip that you were awarded during the defined Thanksgiving period, you would get 200% pay for those days, even if you sapped down the rest of the month and had below your awarded block hours. Because the part that mentions flying at least your awarded block hours isn't until item 4 where it talks about adding flying. But then the email sent out by alpa last night, outlining a few of the new things, said that you only get holiday pay if you fly above your awarded block hours. Can someone clear this up for me?

Thank you in advance.

Yes Union cleared it up yesterday. You must fly your round 1 awarded or company adjusted block or greater by the end of the month to be eligible for 200% premium.

Welp, I'll be dropping my thanksgiving trip then. I was willing to cover it, but not if I have to work every other trip on there. Not gonna work 18 days including thanksgiving.

Thank you for the help though. I do appreciate it.

So this means essentially that the Round 2 guys are going to get a lot of lines that will likely all include Thanksgiving . . . and if so and we swap down below our awarded block, even by one hour, we won't get the 200%?

With round 2 you can't really drop drop down unless days are green right? So if you did drop less than awarded Rd 2 line you would forfeit awarded or picked up holiday premium pay.

You can still get 200% for your thanksgiving trip and sap down to 65 if the trip was on your awarded line. If you sap into a thanksgiving trip you have to be or above your rd1 final block time. So sap down to 65 and stay on your original thanksgiving trip and you'll be fine.

Union is wrong.

CP Replied to a dudes email asking this exact question.

IF you currently have a Thanksgiving trip and you KEEP it then you will get 200% regardless if you SAP to 65hr.

IF you ADD a Thanksgiving trip you have to be at awarded or better credit to to get the 200%.

Don't forget the pay claim at the end of the month but only during the pay claim period. This holiday pay should have been paid automatically with no intervention on behalf of the pilot.

Okay, that is exactly the way I understood it when I read the LOA. But then the union email made it sound like you couldn't get the 200% unless you flew above your awarded block regardless. They should probably send out another email to clarify.

I agree that this seems correct based on my reading of the LOA...

Note that if you try to SWAP a low credit holiday trip for a higher credit one during the SAP, sounds like you won't get holiday pay...unless you fly more than the originally awarded (pre-SAP) R1 "block time" for the month.

[Also notice that the LOA says "block time" not "credit"...which is unusual, since everything else seems to be based off credit time, not scheduled block.]