Is SAP going away?
#101
New Hire
Joined APC: Sep 2017
Posts: 7
I thought long and hard about this whole regional thing. Had several interviews got offered the job at all of them....Okay... This is a good position to be in I thought. Here I am with several offers on the table so which one do I go with?
For me the SAP seemed to good of a thing to pass up. I really didn't care about the bonus. Sure it was nice but who cares. That's here today gone tomorrow. Now here I am coming up on upgrade and starting to seriously consider moving on. I want to make captain and be a good one. Most everybody here I've flown with are cool dudes. This place has provided me with some good experience and I'm thankful.
That SAP short of moving to base has really been the only way to manage some quality of life. That's now fading away though... I'm not gonna stick around and get forced into an even worse QOL with the upgrade and a freaking year of reserve here. I don't know how soon many captains have done that. Maybe I'm a wheene or something. My hat is off to you guys.
For me the SAP seemed to good of a thing to pass up. I really didn't care about the bonus. Sure it was nice but who cares. That's here today gone tomorrow. Now here I am coming up on upgrade and starting to seriously consider moving on. I want to make captain and be a good one. Most everybody here I've flown with are cool dudes. This place has provided me with some good experience and I'm thankful.
That SAP short of moving to base has really been the only way to manage some quality of life. That's now fading away though... I'm not gonna stick around and get forced into an even worse QOL with the upgrade and a freaking year of reserve here. I don't know how soon many captains have done that. Maybe I'm a wheene or something. My hat is off to you guys.
#103
Line Holder
Joined APC: May 2018
Posts: 36
Yes it would pass. With that said, pay raises and QOL life improvements at the WO's are not happening anytime soon. Classes are still being filled to capacity. No reason for AAG to even consider the thought of raising wages.
#105
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2017
Posts: 1,109
Ain’t no way in hell we’re getting pay rates like that. Plus, I’m sure the company is banking on us giving up SAP for a whole lot less, since SAP is only about 50% useful now anyway.
#106
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2017
Posts: 428
QoL (reserve rules, schedule adjustment, not commuting, etc) are worth more than money IMO. You're not out of line for thinking about jumping ship. If you're going to commute and sit on reserve, it might as well be with a company that has more monetary incentive and more importantly better work rules.
#107
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2015
Posts: 327
My guess is there is a manual element to the SAP. It is just a guess but perhaps there is a scheduling person going through these trades and either approving or denying them? 60 eligible bidders x 50 requests per bidder is 3000 submissions. Effortless for a computer but could take hours for a human (and we aren't even accounting for the smoke breaks).
#108
Banned
Joined APC: May 2017
Posts: 2,012
The other possibility is that as it gets slower people put in more requests and you have a positive feedback loop.
#109
Line Holder
Joined APC: Mar 2017
Posts: 54
It may be by design. Remember, only round one eligible pilots can SAP. Lines haven't changed much. So, for example, if there were, say, 55 lines available in DC only 55 pilots could SAP. Assuming DC grew to 57 lines over the past two months then that's an additional two eligible pilots who can SAP, yet performance degradation has been substantially worse now than it was two months ago. The actual numbers may be different but we aren't expanding the number of eligible round 1 pilots by much in contrast to the progressive decline of system performance.
My guess is there is a manual element to the SAP. It is just a guess but perhaps there is a scheduling person going through these trades and either approving or denying them? 60 eligible bidders x 50 requests per bidder is 3000 submissions. Effortless for a computer but could take hours for a human (and we aren't even accounting for the smoke breaks).
My guess is there is a manual element to the SAP. It is just a guess but perhaps there is a scheduling person going through these trades and either approving or denying them? 60 eligible bidders x 50 requests per bidder is 3000 submissions. Effortless for a computer but could take hours for a human (and we aren't even accounting for the smoke breaks).
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