Originally Posted by TallFlyer

Soft Pay = Better min day, rigs, etc. Basically any contractual rule that gives a pilot additional credit without actually having flown that credit.

Bonuses = Bonuses.

And pay rates are never the whole story.


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Originally Posted by TallFlyer

Let me be very direct about a few things.

- The company does not get PBS without major ALPA involvement in building pairings, and soft pay gains.
- The company does not get PBS without major ALPA involvement in running that PBS, to include ALPA access to every under the hood parameter that the company gets access to.

Originally Posted by irrelevant

I don’t know. Yesterday I was pretty confident I’d never have to work with a leprechaun, but I’ve recently discovered I was in error.

I don’t have anything against leprechauns in general, in case any of you are one.

Originally Posted by JayBee

Seriously though, you seem to need to have the last word final say exercise my authority over everyone thing going on, maybe you need a girlfriend ?

Originally Posted by FlyingSlowly

Let's not get alarmist. PBS would require a MAJOR revision of the contract. The pilot group has to get a say in the matter.

It's not a "little" change that can be addressed in an LOA...

Originally Posted by chrisreedrules

Though I think we will still have the best SAP out of any regionals with SAP.

Originally Posted by TallFlyer

Let me be very direct about a few things.

- The company does not get PBS without major ALPA involvement in building pairings, and soft pay gains.
- The company does not get PBS without major ALPA involvement in running that PBS, to include ALPA access to every under the hood parameter that the company gets access to.

This has never, and never will be, tossing the company the keys to PBS and hoping it works out.

Yes, an initial PBS award will give senior people what they want ahead of junior people (as it should be) but we don’t yet know the specifics of what SAP will look like in a PBS world. Feel free to judge ALPA then. Both the company and ALPA are clear that SAP is not going away. What EXACTLY the parameters will be in the future we don’t know.

In the meantime, wait until the reserve rules come out and judge us from there.


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Originally Posted by TallFlyer

My general issue with you post was it was the typical wishy washy statements that we see on here with no faith in ALPA to manage and operate this, the company will just keep producing crap trips, the company will just give us our schedule and that’ll be it, etc.

We’ve got some very smart people on the initial stages of this thing, and soon will have to bring in some more. Baby steps.

And quite frankly, can’t argue about the girlfriend thing. I really need to get back to CLT.

Originally Posted by Folove

Btw how can we fix reserve rules if the biggest factor we have is scheduling inefficiencies? Reserves cover all of schedulings f ups and inefficient changes so with reduce reservist available(assuming better reserve rules included increase min days off) that means no one to cover scheduling and all of their chaos. So scheduling needs to become way more efficient since they’ll have less reserve to cover their butts. Again, this is assuming reserve is so good people work a little less and less people on reserve on a given day.

Originally Posted by FlyingSlowly

Simple solution used at other airlines:

Trip Rigs & Duty Rigs

[These mean that if the company doesn't use pilots efficiently, they still have to pay for them...Effectively forces the company to use pilots more efficiently.]