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Originally Posted by Quarryman
(Post 2586826)
At least two contractors to keep the WOs in line if need be by using ye ol' whipsaw.
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Originally Posted by FlyingSlowly
(Post 2587622)
Pilots at the WOs are awfully good at letting themselves be whipsawed against each other too...
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
(Post 2586742)
I think the future for the American Eagle flying is this:
Envoy PSA Piedmont Republic SkyWest Any of the others I would say are no guarantee. Maybe Mesa? But I see them struggling. |
Originally Posted by Brinary01
(Post 2588290)
A business minded person would not continue to let profits leak to what are effectively competitors. X jet and TSA are losing that flying because they can not maintain it. Why isn’t Mesa going away? Because, they are, SOME WAY, still staffing the planes they are given to fly. I think you got a hint in the last town hall. Dion wants us to take more long haul routes. My guess is that American wants to take all the most lucrative routes for its WO companies, and leave the less popular routes with smaller margins to other reagionals. That would be the schrewd move. So as for who gets the flying the WOs don’t want in the end? Who ever will accept the crappy flying and can afford to operate like that, SkyWest will probably not accept that, Republic is probably a little more in-elastic, but my guess is what ever the bosom feeder airline of the day is.
1. "shrewd" 2. Apparently you've never heard management tell us that the reason our schedules are so crappy is that because carriers like RAH, MAF, etc, get first dibs on flying because its less expensive that way to AAG. Gee, must be nice to have trip and duty rigs like RAH so that its more cost effective to give them better flying. |
This is what I came up with. I also think one day that PSA will take over Skywest and Mesa operations, but that will take a while to happen. Finally, I think that Envoy and Piedmont will merge. Anyone agree?
Envoy Air 140/145 15 (Trans State to Envoy) 140/145 75 ??? Maybe 175 20 (Compass to Envoy) 175 44 + 10 + 15 + (61) = 130 240 PSA Airlines 200 35 700 22 (Envoy to PSA) 700 39 900 54 + 15 + (15) = 84 200 -35 (Retirement) 145 Piedmont Airlines 145 13 (Envoy to Piedmont) 145 4 (Envoy to Piedmont) Assuming they can staff 4 more 145 43 60 Total WO Aircraft 445 SkyWest 700 39 700 12 (ExpressJet to SkyWest) Mesa 900 64 Republic 175 85 Total Regional Aircraft 645 Contract Expires Compass (End of 2019) SkyWest Mesa Republic CRJ 700 112 CRJ 900 148 ERJ 140/145 150 ERJ 175 235 112 + 148 = 260 CRJs 150 (-55) + 235 = 330 ERJs 55 ERJ145s Retire American only wants 590 regional aircraft |
Originally Posted by Brinary01
(Post 2588290)
A business minded person would not continue to let profits leak to what are effectively competitors. X jet and TSA are losing that flying because they can not maintain it. Why isn’t Mesa going away? Because, they are, SOME WAY, still staffing the planes they are given to fly. I think you got a hint in the last town hall. Dion wants us to take more long haul routes. My guess is that American wants to take all the most lucrative routes for its WO companies, and leave the less popular routes with smaller margins to other reagionals. That would be the schrewd move. So as for who gets the flying the WOs don’t want in the end? Who ever will accept the crappy flying and can afford to operate like that, SkyWest will probably not accept that, Republic is probably a little more in-elastic, but my guess is what ever the bosom feeder airline of the day is.
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Originally Posted by TallFlyer
(Post 2587641)
Yeah, all those continual gains for the last three years for all three pilot groups are great examples of that.
My gripe here is certainly not with the MEC. And it wasn't meant just with regard to PSA...it's more about attitudes among the pilot groups. At least from what I've heard, too many still seem to think that we are competing with the other regionals and even the other WOs. Not enough realize that all the WOs are basically a massive cost-savings tool for AAL. Too few realize the HUGE margins that AAL makes because of us WO pilots (or in spite of us, depending on how you look at it). CLT is now (by the CEO's own admission) the most profitable hub of the world's largest airline. It wouldn't be that way without PSA. Pilots at PSA (along with the other WOs) need to understand what they are really worth to the parent company. [end rant] |
Originally Posted by Skyhawkdriver34
(Post 2588520)
American only wants 590 regional aircraft
Current scope agreement is for 75% of AA narrow body fleet for total number of RJs, and 40% of AA narrow body fleet for large (66 seats+) RJs. |
Originally Posted by FlyingSlowly
(Post 2588609)
Pilots need to understand what they are really worth to the parent company.
[end rant] Look at Delta's main line payscale for the CRJ 900 and look at the the pitiful wages we get.
Originally Posted by Braveheart
Why? Why is that impossible? You're so concerned with squabbling for the scraps from Longshank's table that you've missed your God given right to something better. There is a difference between us. You think the people of this country exist to provide you with possession. I think your possession exists to provide those people with freedom. And I go to make sure that they have it. |
Originally Posted by MaCrOs
(Post 2588815)
AA would gladly take as many regional aircrafts as possible, given lower operating costs vs mainline.
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