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MarkVI 06-23-2018 05:05 AM

Bonus Tax Question
 
Hey Guys,

Haven't gotten my bonus yet, just curious as to what the tax rate on it is? Or whatever the deposited value is?

Thanks!

captande 06-23-2018 05:09 AM


Originally Posted by MarkVI (Post 2620040)
Hey Guys,

Haven't gotten my bonus yet, just curious as to what the tax rate on it is? Or whatever the deposited value is?

Thanks!

The new hire bonus? Comes in between completion of the checkride and completion of IOE. I think after taxes it was like 13,626. Can vary depending on how you have your taxes taken out.

MaCrOs 06-23-2018 05:21 AM


Originally Posted by MarkVI (Post 2620040)
Hey Guys,

Haven't gotten my bonus yet, just curious as to what the tax rate on it is? Or whatever the deposited value is?

Thanks!

Bonuses are taxed at 25% rate. Of course that's all adjusted when you file your taxes.

KYhawkdriver 06-23-2018 05:37 AM


Originally Posted by captande (Post 2620046)
The new hire bonus? Comes in between completion of the checkride and completion of IOE. I think after taxes it was like 13,626. Can vary depending on how you have your taxes taken out.

Does it come separately or with the normal pay on the 20th?

Swakid8 06-23-2018 05:53 AM


Originally Posted by KYhawkdriver (Post 2620063)
Does it come separately or with the normal pay on the 20th?


It can come out at either the 5th or 20th. Depends on when the process the bonus


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minivan 06-23-2018 01:16 PM


Originally Posted by MarkVI (Post 2620040)
Hey Guys,

Haven't gotten my bonus yet, just curious as to what the tax rate on it is? Or whatever the deposited value is?

Thanks!

Best I can figure with pilot math, they withhold about 35% of the bonus to protect the innocent. I took my normal cumulative withholding percentage for taxes (~16% rounded) from my guarantee pay then subtracted that amount from total deductions. I then subtracted uniforms from total deductions. I then divided this resulatant number by the signing bonus amount to figure ~36% rounded withheld from the bonus.

I'm working with the assumption that per diem is not taxed (fairly certain it is not).

I don't know if this is how they actually figure the withholding on the signing bonus. It just seems like 36% is withheld after doing my brand of figuring.

captande 06-23-2018 02:08 PM


Originally Posted by minivan (Post 2620336)
Best I can figure with pilot math, they withhold about 35% of the bonus to protect the innocent. I took my normal cumulative withholding percentage for taxes (~16% rounded) from my guarantee pay then subtracted that amount from total deductions. I then subtracted uniforms from total deductions. I then divided this resulatant number by the signing bonus amount to figure ~36% rounded withheld from the bonus.

I'm working with the assumption that per diem is not taxed (fairly certain it is not).

I don't know if this is how they actually figure the withholding on the signing bonus. It just seems like 36% is withheld after doing my brand of figuring.

Per diem is only taxed when collecting it in your base. Don’t know when that happens but I know it does.

MaCrOs 06-23-2018 02:54 PM


Originally Posted by captande (Post 2620369)
Per diem is only taxed when collecting it in your base. Don’t know when that happens but I know it does.

Per diem is taxable only if you do day trips aka begin and end in base the same day.

minivan 06-23-2018 03:52 PM

Does that include training per diem?

BrewCity 06-23-2018 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by MaCrOs (Post 2620055)
Bonuses are taxed at 25% rate. Of course that's all adjusted when you file your taxes.

Taxes are WITHHELD at a 25% tax rate. The actual tax you pay at the end of the year is based on your total income for the year.

MaCrOs 06-23-2018 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by BrewCity (Post 2620442)
Taxes are WITHHELD at a 25% tax rate. The actual tax you pay at the end of the year is based on your total income for the year.

Semantics... Yes that's correct but the meaning is the same.

minivan 06-23-2018 04:56 PM


Originally Posted by MaCrOs (Post 2620456)
Semantics... Yes that's correct but the meaning is the same.

I had much more than 25% withheld. Guess I'll make a phone call and see what's up.

Swakid8 06-23-2018 05:05 PM


Originally Posted by minivan (Post 2620463)
I had much more than 25% withheld. Guess I'll make a phone call and see what's up.

Its roughly that, do you pay state taxes as well? The state will get their share also. Don't forget City of Dayton got their share as well.

minivan 06-23-2018 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by Swakid8 (Post 2620468)
Its roughly that, do you pay state taxes as well? The state will get their share also. Don't forget City of Dayton got their share as well.

Dayton doesn't get my money any more! :p

All I know is: taxes suck.

If they withheld too much I'll get it back when I do my 2018 taxes. No problemo. I'm just not a huge fan of interest free lending to Uncle Sam.

Swakid8 06-23-2018 09:03 PM


Originally Posted by minivan (Post 2620473)
Dayton doesn't get my money any more! :p



All I know is: taxes suck.



If they withheld too much I'll get it back when I do my 2018 taxes. No problemo. I'm just not a huge fan of interest free lending to Uncle Sam.


When did you get them to stop taking those taxes, the city of Dayton that is? How did you go about stopping that?


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bh5311 06-23-2018 10:16 PM

For RTP do they pay you the bonus first and you pay taxes on it before using it at the flight school, or do they pay the school directly?

WhiteMorpheus 06-24-2018 05:10 AM


Originally Posted by KYhawkdriver (Post 2620063)
Does it come separately or with the normal pay on the 20th?

Last year we all got physical checks either handed to us, or mailed to our home address. That may only apply to the RTP guys/gals since we received our bonus earlier than a normal hire.

minivan 06-24-2018 05:11 AM


Originally Posted by Swakid8 (Post 2620574)
When did you get them to stop taking those taxes, the city of Dayton that is? How did you go about stopping that?


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It's a municipal tax that should only be paid while working in Dayton. Move on from Dayton and the Dayton taxes should stop. If not, I would make a call or email to get it stopped.

Swakid8 06-24-2018 05:12 AM

Bonus Tax Question
 
I am technically still Dayton based in July, but I haven't seen Dayton since April and I don't even live there.


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minivan 06-24-2018 05:19 AM


Originally Posted by Swakid8 (Post 2620662)
I am technically still Dayton based in July, but I haven't seen Dayton since April and I don't even live there.


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That explains it, but I would see if it could be changed.

minivan 06-24-2018 05:24 AM


Originally Posted by WhiteMorpheus (Post 2620659)
Last year we all got physical checks either handed to us, or mailed to our home address. That may only apply to the RTP guys/gals since we received our bonus earlier than a normal hire.

Can't speak for everybody, but RTP signing bonus seems to be paying out just like every other signing bonus around 90 days and direct deposit on 5th or 20th along with your normal pay.

Not sure about the payments on the fixed wing training. I assume they pay the school directly from what I've heard from others.

WhiteMorpheus 06-24-2018 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by minivan (Post 2620666)
Can't speak for everybody, but RTP signing bonus seems to be paying out just like every other signing bonus around 90 days and direct deposit on 5th or 20th along with your normal pay.

Not sure about the payments on the fixed wing training. I assume they pay the school directly from what I've heard from others.

They've probably updated the RTP contract, my bonus was paid after the IPTs or oral, can't remember exactly, but it was definitely before our Sims/PC ride.


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