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scubadiver 09-11-2018 06:41 PM

How much flight time do you credit monthly?
 
I am curious what the average pilot credits on a monthly basis. Is the average around the 75 hour mark with a decent amount of days off? How does it compare to other regionals with trip credit per day, etc?

Thanks!

irrelevant 09-11-2018 07:09 PM

I don't know what the average is, but for me it's 65 hours/month. 16-18 days off. If they paid more, I'd probably work more, but for the current wages it isn't worthwhile.

kevin18 09-11-2018 07:11 PM


Originally Posted by irrelevant (Post 2672513)
I don't know what the average is, but for me it's 65 hours/month. 16-18 days off. If they paid more, I'd probably work more, but for the current wages it isn't worthwhile.

Stupid question here. Is there a difference between credited and actual time flown? How significant is that difference? I understand that will absolutely be the case on reserve, what about when holding a line?

irrelevant 09-11-2018 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by kevin18 (Post 2672516)
Stupid question here. Is there a difference between credited and actual time flown? How significant is that difference?

There can be. If you have a month with cancellations for weather, you are still pay protected for the time you didn't fly...assuming you're a line holder. You also have the greater of "scheduled block or actual flight time" that can sometimes add a couple hours of credit over what you actually blocked...if you also underblocked some legs.

For reserve pilots it's completely different. You'll get paid 75 hour guarantee, unless you exceed 75 hours of block time...which I believe is pretty rare.

chrisreedrules 09-11-2018 08:36 PM

I average about 75 - 85 hours of credit and anywhere from 13-16 days off /month. The most days off I’ve had here were 20 and I still credited about 70 hours by the end of the month. The most credit I’ve been able to manage was just shy of 130 hours of pay (when factoring in SDO and a trip that went critical) but that was with 9 days off.

Jecain7 09-11-2018 08:44 PM

Anywhere from 75-100+ depends on if I feel like working extra. I'm getting more and more frustrated with dealing with the open time pay claim BS. I must have missed the part of the job description where it says First officer/CPA.

stillcantfly 09-12-2018 03:29 AM

At a 125% it isn’t worth anyone’s time and then having to fill out a form to beg for the money you worked for......nah I’m good

chrisreedrules 09-12-2018 04:01 AM


Originally Posted by Jecain7 (Post 2672583)
Anywhere from 75-100+ depends on if I feel like working extra. I'm getting more and more frustrated with dealing with the open time pay claim BS. I must have missed the part of the job description where it says First officer/CPA.

Same. It’s rare that I do it. I mostly just fly my line and call it a day. I’ve been hearing increasing complaints about pilots having to battle with payroll just to get them to approve stuff that is spelled out in the contract over the past few months. Same reason I refuse to fly for holiday pay if they offer it anymore. Last time I did payroll denied my claim for a bogus reason and I had to fight for a couple months to get paid what they owed me. I just don’t want to deal with it. Make it a hassle to work extra? That’s fine I just won’t work.

irrelevant 09-12-2018 04:08 AM

The best is when you pick up a trip on a scheduled day off, then they refuse to pay SDO pay, because you got paid CCP for a different trip that month.

#neveragain

chrisreedrules 09-12-2018 04:24 AM


Originally Posted by irrelevant (Post 2672672)
The best is when you pick up a trip on a scheduled day off, then they refuse to pay SDO pay, because you got paid CCP for a different trip that month.

#neveragain

This happened to a buddy of mine this month.

There is however a section in the contract that spells this out. It’s in one of the examples.

irrelevant 09-12-2018 05:10 AM


Originally Posted by chrisreedrules (Post 2672689)
This happened to a buddy of mine this month.

There is however a section in the contract that spells this out. It’s in one of the examples.

It is. The company got that exemption from common sense, and lost extra effort from at least one high-performing crew member in exchange.

MaCrOs 09-12-2018 12:34 PM

65 credit 18-19 days off. After the forced upgrade I expect around 30-40 hours of actual flying with 12 days off (unless I get out of here before then).

Malcolm Tent 09-12-2018 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by MaCrOs (Post 2673125)
65 credit 18-19 days off. After the forced upgrade I expect around 30-40 hours of actual flying with 12 days off (unless I get out of here before then).

12 days? How’d you figure that with only 11 days off scheduled and a commute to your new voluntold base.

MaCrOs 09-12-2018 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by Malcolm Tent (Post 2673134)
12 days? How’d you figure that with only 11 days off scheduled and a commute to your new voluntold base.

I'm being extra hopeful :rolleyes:

Urban achiever 09-13-2018 05:53 AM

Best I ever did- over 147 hrs
credit with 14 days off, due to ccp and swapping trips out of base for those that were critical in others. You got to watch the reserve grid like a hawk to pull that off though.

Usual- 85-90hrs with 14-15 days off as a very senior Clt fo. It’s possible to get 12 days off as a reserve and credit 75 hrs if you bid properly.

On a side note- now that were “properly staffed” ccp shouldn’t be a regular occurrence so the days of crediting 120-140hrs with 13-14 days are long gone (most likely)

BOS 80 09-13-2018 11:43 AM

Monthly credit
 
My monthly averages for this year as a Rd 1: Credit 102, Block 70, Days Off 13.

Pay claims are not difficult. I haven't had any issues and I submit them regularly. Not sure why some fuss about it.

chrisreedrules 09-13-2018 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by BOS 80 (Post 2673660)
My monthly averages for this year as a Rd 1: Credit 102, Block 70, Days Off 13.

Pay claims are not difficult. I haven't had any issues and I submit them regularly. Not sure why some fuss about it.

There seems to be a random, but nonetheless disparaging difference dealing with payroll for some pilots here. I never had too many issues with my pay being off until I started picking up SDO and Critical pay. Last time I did, I had to fight to be paid correctly. Same with holiday pay from 2017. It took me involving the CPs to get my pay. I know people who don’t have regular issues, but I know many more who do.

irrelevant 09-13-2018 03:40 PM

....and some of us who do, have more productive uses for our time than fighting with our employer to get them to pay what they’ve agreed to.


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