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Originally Posted by Swakid8 (Post 2749297)

But we have only taking plane a month at this rate so far. They are coming aboard at a steady rate, plus right now, flying is low with only 120 planes active with the remainder being spares and maintenance until about April when the Active number increase for summer flying. Then with the accelerated transfer of the 700, flying will increase. It’s just going to take patience.

I think the PHL Base will see it’s share of growth towards the summer through the end of the year when the new 900s come aboard too.

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True. I could be off, but I’m a numbers guy. Flying does increase in the summertime, but it decreases again in the fall and winter so we’re back to where we started.

By my math we’re averaging 3.3 lines per airplane. Even if we had all 150 airplanes right now that puts us just shy of 500 total lines for each seat. So instead of a new hire having to move up 450 spots like they do currently.... they would only have to move up 400 spots (500 lines for 900 FOs) which will only decrease time on reserve by about 2 months. 3 months tops. I think attrition will also start to pick up in the summer or fall so that’s where I’m getting my 16-22 months depending on base.

These numbers factor in having all airplanes and an uptick in attrition. And actually we’re almost to 1900 pilots. So using 900 FOs is slightly generous in reference to this scenario.

How does this new pay work for LCA?

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Originally Posted by penaltybox (Post 2749497)

How does this new pay work for LCA?

LCA is paid like it is now, more or less, and applied only to the original credit. It won't be included prior to the "fly your ass off for an extra quarter" tiered pay scale credit adjustments.

A reserve LCA would get their 75 at straight pay, plus the standard LCA overage for their LCA trips, not 125% of their LCA-overide credit taking them above 75 hrs credit.

Sounds like this may be clarified or modified as part of the next LOA.

Example (I don't remember what LCA override is):
Regular CA: 78 block for 83 credit = 75 x rate + (83-75) x 1.25 x rate = 85 x rate
LCA: 78 block, 83 pre-overide credit, 10 as LCA = 75 x rate + (83-75) x 1.25 x rate + 10 x override (25%?) x rate = 87.5 x rate

Thanks. So if one saps to 65 they don’t get the fancy new pay even though their credit exceeds 75, got it.

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Originally Posted by penaltybox (Post 2749612)

Thanks. So if one saps to 65 they don’t get the fancy new pay even though their credit exceeds 75, got it.

You will if you credit over 75. The bad part is you used to be able to sap to 65, then pick up a trip or two from open time at 125% immediately. Now you can't do that

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Originally Posted by I hate desks (Post 2749632)

You will if you credit over 75. The bad part is you used to be able to sap to 65, then pick up a trip or two from open time at 125% immediately. Now you can't do that

Yea, but they’re calling it “accelerated pay”. That means it’s better right?

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Originally Posted by Thedude86 (Post 2749659)

Yea, but they’re calling it “accelerated pay”. That means it’s better right?

Totally
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Originally Posted by Thedude86 (Post 2749659)

Yea, but they’re calling it “accelerated pay”. That means it’s better right?

I heard it's faster.

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Originally Posted by ninerdriver (Post 2749756)

I heard it's faster.

Accelerating towards lowest paid regional.

Haha I mean all it comes down to is if you work 90 hours in a month you get an extra 5 hours of pay.

75-85: 10 hours at 1.25 = 2.5
85-90: 5 hours at 1.5 = 2.5
For a grand total of 5 extra hours

It's not nothing, but I don't see why anyone is particularly excited about it. It certainly won't have any impact on how I bid my schedules.