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K92plane 02-12-2019 06:12 PM

Shortest reserve time ?
 
How’s it looking?

captande 02-12-2019 07:28 PM


Originally Posted by K92plane (Post 2762947)
How’s it looking?

It’s really fluid. Since we’re getting fat on FOs, reserve times are slowly creeping up. I’d say an average of about a year now.

Irishblackbird 02-13-2019 07:09 AM

Anyone hired today is looking at least a year on reserve unless you bid ORF or DAY which are currently at 9 months. Unless attrition picks up or we accelerate our airplane deliveries these times won't be going down. We will have March numbers in a few weeks.

midwestpilot 02-13-2019 05:20 PM

How much flying can you pick up on reserve as a FO out of DAY or CVG?

Jecain7 02-13-2019 05:34 PM


Originally Posted by midwestpilot (Post 2763665)
How much flying can you pick up on reserve as a FO out of DAY or CVG?

11 days off, so whatever you can squeeze into that. Probably not a lot unless you can move days assuming they’re green.

ZeroTT 02-13-2019 05:36 PM


Originally Posted by midwestpilot (Post 2763665)
How much flying can you pick up on reserve as a FO out of DAY or CVG?

Rounding to one significant digit - zero.

Thing is, you basically cannot pick up flying on your work days (18/month). And you have to have 1 day in 7 off. So the max you can work is 24 days/month. So you might be able to pick up a trip here and there but I would say it

1) would round to zero hour per month rather than 10
2) will not meaningfully change your pay or logbook, but will take your barely viable quality of life and hold its head underwater til it stops thrashing.

Slow2Final 02-13-2019 06:29 PM


Originally Posted by ZeroTT (Post 2763675)
but will take your barely viable quality of life and hold its head underwater til it stops thrashing.

Made me laugh and cry all at the same time.

Malcolm Tent 02-13-2019 07:51 PM

ZeroTT wins the internet quote of the day award with this gem; well played sir....well played!


Originally Posted by ZeroTT (Post 2763675)
2) will not meaningfully change your pay or logbook, but will take your barely viable quality of life and hold its head underwater til it stops thrashing.


midwestpilot 02-14-2019 02:08 PM

Is there a rough estimate of the number of hours a FO based out of CVG or DAY would fly a month on reserve?

Approach1260 02-14-2019 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by midwestpilot (Post 2764342)
Is there a rough estimate of the number of hours a FO based out of CVG or DAY would fly a month on reserve?

Depends on the month, but anywhere between 0 and maybe up to 40

K92plane 02-14-2019 06:09 PM


Originally Posted by Approach1260 (Post 2764374)
Depends on the month, but anywhere between 0 and maybe up to 40

That’s not good

ninerdriver 02-15-2019 04:20 AM


Originally Posted by K92plane (Post 2764471)
That’s not good

If you want to fly a lot on reserve, then you usually have to find an understaffed airline.

If you can find an understaffed airline that both a) is hiring and b) remains understaffed, though, then there's probably a reason for that.

Approach1260 02-15-2019 09:21 AM


Originally Posted by ninerdriver (Post 2764592)
If you want to fly a lot on reserve, then you usually have to find an understaffed airline.

If you can find an understaffed airline that both a) is hiring and b) remains understaffed, though, then there's probably a reason for that.

Pretty much, PSA is essentially overstaffed but insist on having about half the company on reserve.

Plus in my experience when you do get used on reserve you get a double/triple deadhead to work one leg to an overnight then Deadhead around the next day to do it again.

Slow2Final 02-15-2019 10:29 AM


Originally Posted by Approach1260 (Post 2764766)
Plus in my experience when you do get used on reserve you get a double/triple deadhead to work one leg to an overnight then Deadhead around the next day to do it again.

My IOE instructor said I should definitely log deadheads, since I'll get more of those. I'll have my time likety-split! /s

K92plane 02-15-2019 10:32 AM


Originally Posted by ninerdriver (Post 2764592)
If you want to fly a lot on reserve, then you usually have to find an understaffed airline.

If you can find an understaffed airline that both a) is hiring and b) remains understaffed, though, then there's probably a reason for that.

Like Wisconsin :)

ZeroTT 02-17-2019 09:36 AM

New reserve rules are going to significantly change the dynamics of who gets reserve and how much they fly.

Slow2Final 02-17-2019 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by ZeroTT (Post 2765788)
New reserve rules are going to significantly change the dynamics of who gets reserve and how much they fly.

Particularly if you're in an outstation vs. a hub.

Approach1260 02-17-2019 03:12 PM

Essentially it minimizes how effective first/last out preferences are. For example you can be the most Senior last out pilot on reserve, but if a two day trip pops up and you're the only one with exactly two days available then you get it even if there are a dozen pilots junior to you with more days of reserve remaining.

Rotor2prop 03-07-2019 01:36 PM

If hired in the next couple months how soon could one hold reserve at TYS?

Thedude86 03-07-2019 02:43 PM


Originally Posted by Rotor2prop (Post 2777092)
If hired in the next couple months how soon could one hold reserve at TYS?

Currently it’s at 11.2 months. If you started tomorrow I would guess 16-18 months. I don’t know how much more the company plans to grow pilot wise, but if the current pace holds steady and you don’t start for another few months it could be 18-24 months of reserve.

Flyboy68 03-07-2019 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by Slow2Final (Post 2764805)
My IOE instructor said I should definitely log deadheads, since I'll get more of those. I'll have my time likety-split! /s

https://i.imgur.com/CDqD1KV.jpg

Slow2Final 03-07-2019 04:05 PM


Originally Posted by Flyboy68 (Post 2777163)

That's the joke?

Rotor2prop 03-08-2019 02:50 AM


Originally Posted by Thedude86 (Post 2777157)
Currently it’s at 11.2 months. If you started tomorrow I would guess 16-18 months. I don’t know how much more the company plans to grow pilot wise, but if the current pace holds steady and you don’t start for another few months it could be 18-24 months of reserve.

OK thanks for the information! One would think something is in the works considering the amount of hiring they are still doing. How many more new deliveries are coming and how many Envoy 700 transfers are left? Any other speculation on why they're stacking pilots?

ZeroTT 03-08-2019 04:23 AM

Anticipating a pilot shortage with mainline retirements

PleaseComplete 03-08-2019 08:01 AM


Originally Posted by Rotor2prop (Post 2777472)
OK thanks for the information! One would think something is in the works considering the amount of hiring they are still doing. How many more new deliveries are coming and how many Envoy 700 transfers are left? Any other speculation on why they're stacking pilots?

Going to fire all the trouble makers who make negative nancy posts on APC ? :eek: :p ;)

captande 03-08-2019 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by PleaseComplete (Post 2777687)
Going to fire all the trouble makers who make negative nancy posts on APC ? :eek: :p ;)

There is not enough pilots in the system! Haha

Approach1260 03-08-2019 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by Rotor2prop (Post 2777472)
OK thanks for the information! One would think something is in the works considering the amount of hiring they are still doing. How many more new deliveries are coming and how many Envoy 700 transfers are left? Any other speculation on why they're stacking pilots?

The latest I heard is that the company doesn't see itself as over staffed, instead they see it as the bare minimum that's needed to keep the wheels turning.

Ulramar 03-08-2019 05:20 PM

How senior is DCA? How long would it take to be reserve there, let alone an actual line?

Varsity 03-08-2019 09:30 PM


Originally Posted by Approach1260 (Post 2777983)
The latest I heard is that the company doesn't see itself as over staffed, instead they see it as the bare minimum that's needed to keep the wheels turning.

ENY is hiring like bonkers as well.

A lot of bonus money out the window just to stack rsv pilots deep. Feels like something is in the works.

PleaseComplete 03-09-2019 03:56 AM


Originally Posted by Ulramar (Post 2778183)
How senior is DCA? How long would it take to be reserve there, let alone an actual line?

SCR 5.2
LCR 6.6
BU 9.3
R1 11.2

Overall trend graph has a steady increase in all bases.

WhiteMorpheus 03-09-2019 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by Varsity (Post 2778327)
A lot of bonus money out the window just to stack rsv pilots deep. Feels like something is in the works.

Yes, the thing in the works is a plethora of retirements. Loads of mainline pilots will hit their mandatory retirement dates over the next 4 years...

American
2019: 637
2020: 772
2021: 840
2022: 861

Delta
2019: 448
2020: 549
2021: 751
2022: 822

United
2019 - 353
2020 - 373
2021 - 452
2022 - 444

Rotor2prop 03-10-2019 06:16 AM


Originally Posted by PleaseComplete (Post 2778388)
SCR 5.2
LCR 6.6
BU 9.3
R1 11.2

Overall trend graph has a steady increase in all bases.

Could you make a post with all the up to date numbers like this for all bases? It’d be greatly appreciated!

captande 03-10-2019 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by Rotor2prop (Post 2779036)
Could you make a post with all the up to date numbers like this for all bases? It’d be greatly appreciated!

We have a math wizard that comes up with the chart. Haven’t seen it yet for this month, yet.

PleaseComplete 03-10-2019 10:13 AM


Originally Posted by captande (Post 2779161)
We have a math wizard that comes up with the chart. Haven’t seen it yet for this month, yet.

Yea. Don't know why he stopped posting the graphs here so since he doesn't and I don't feel like asking if its ok to... sorry to the dude above...

chrisreedrules 03-10-2019 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by PleaseComplete (Post 2779193)
Yea. Don't know why he stopped posting the graphs here so since he doesn't and I don't feel like asking if its ok to... sorry to the dude above...

They’re posted on BSL.

PleaseComplete 03-10-2019 02:55 PM


Originally Posted by chrisreedrules (Post 2779300)
They’re posted on BSL.

"Yea. Don't know why he stopped posting the graphs here so since he doesn't and I don't feel like asking if its ok to... sorry to the dude above..."

chrisreedrules 03-10-2019 03:21 PM


Originally Posted by PleaseComplete (Post 2779366)
"Yea. Don't know why he stopped posting the graphs here so since he doesn't and I don't feel like asking if its ok to... sorry to the dude above..."

Lol

-filler-

ninerdriver 03-11-2019 04:45 AM


Originally Posted by Approach1260 (Post 2777983)
The latest I heard is that the company doesn't see itself as over staffed, instead they see it as the bare minimum that's needed to keep the wheels turning.

They're anticipating the next scheduling software shutdown this summer. If half the pilots are on reserve, then they don't have to know where the lineholders are in order to staff their flights.

Duck Sausage 03-11-2019 09:45 AM


Originally Posted by ninerdriver (Post 2779713)
They're anticipating the next scheduling software shutdown this summer. If half the pilots are on reserve, then they don't have to know where the lineholders are in order to staff their flights.

I just shivered reading this :D

I was on reserve then and will still be on reserve this summer too!:mad:

Hawk739 03-19-2019 09:40 AM

PHL base
 
Can I get PHL out of training? I was offered a class date in July. Also how may hours a month should I expect to fly during reserve? Is it like 9E or RAH that are barely getting flight hours ?


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