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Old 06-07-2019, 04:08 AM
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Hello,
I just recently got an offer with both airlines, living close to DC both would have a base that i can drive to easily.
Wanted to see what people's opinion would be in this case.
Psa does pay more and mainly has a guaranteed flow to AA, since i don't have a Bachelor's this is very interesting.
Air Wisconsin does have opportunities to credit more hours at quite lower rate and better Healthcare, but Career Path i only after i get a Bachelor's and guarantees only an interview with United, which honestly i can do at PSA since the Bachelor degree can be done thru ALPA.
I have flown in the Airline industry for 11 in Europe so hour wise i am good.

Wonder if people have insight or come up with things that i haven't thought about yet.
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Old 06-07-2019, 04:34 AM
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I don't fly for either, and have been out of the industry for a few years (looking to go back myself). The few things that has been worrying me about Air Wisconsin is that they only fly crj 200's while there has been an increasing shift away from smaller regional planes, so I wonder if their days are numbered? The other thing I read in another thread is about the new leadership they got. From what I read he has a history of bringing companies into bankruptcy. I went through that at Colgan back in the day, they brought in someone with that history. I made the decision to leave at that point, even though Colgan was "growing". Less than a year later Colgan no longer existed.
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Old 06-07-2019, 06:22 AM
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Things aren’t too bad at PSA. You have decent pay and a flow. I like it here. We are growing. There are definitely some things that need improvement but overall it is a pretty good place to land!
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Old 06-07-2019, 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Wildflyin View Post
worrying me about Air Wisconsin is that they only fly crj 200's while there has been an increasing shift away from smaller regional planes,
The 200's days are definitely numbered. The transition to a different fleet is a choke point for AW's future. Could go well or not.
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No degree, then go with PSA. Otherwise you need to get going on an online program.
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Old 06-07-2019, 03:10 PM
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Now that PSA has finally quit most of the bonus games, and raised the Captain pay to a respectable level, I don’t see ZW being competitive.

Regardless where you choose to go, knock your Bachelor’s degree out while your sitting reserve, or sitting in hotel rooms. At the current rate of flow at PSA, you’re likely to be there 8-9 years before your turn to flow arrives. There’s no point handicapping your competitiveness elsewhere because you can flow to AA in 8-9 years.
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Now that PSA has finally quit most of the bonus games, and raised the Captain pay to a respectable level, I don’t see ZW being competitive.

Regardless where you choose to go, knock your Bachelor’s degree out while your sitting reserve, or sitting in hotel rooms. At the current rate of flow at PSA, you’re likely to be there 8-9 years before your turn to flow arrives. There’s no point handicapping your competitiveness elsewhere because you can flow to AA in 8-9 years.
The legacy airlines need to hire a LOT of pilots in the next 8-9 years. The number is more than every regional pilot currently flying and the majority of the military pilots. If you think the flow will be 8-9 years, you are sadly mistaken. PSA will lose more to outside attrition to majors than to flow starting in 2020, even with the flow increase.

But yes, finish you degree. 100%. The flow is for those that can't get hired elsewhere first.
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Old 06-09-2019, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by DoNoHarm View Post
The legacy airlines need to hire a LOT of pilots in the next 8-9 years. The number is more than every regional pilot currently flying and the majority of the military pilots. If you think the flow will be 8-9 years, you are sadly mistaken. PSA will lose more to outside attrition to majors than to flow starting in 2020, even with the flow increase.



But yes, finish you degree. 100%. The flow is for those that can't get hired elsewhere first.


Dang, you’re an optimistic fella!
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Originally Posted by Duck Sausage View Post
Dang, you’re an optimistic fella!
Between just the big three (AA, Delta, and United) there will be over 6,000 retirements in the next 3 years. The 3 years after that will be over 7,000.

That is 13,000 in the next 6 years alone just in mandatory retirements. The real number will be closer to 18,000 hired with growth and early retirements.
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Old 06-16-2019, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by irrelevant View Post
Now that PSA has finally quit most of the bonus games, and raised the Captain pay to a respectable level, I don’t see ZW being competitive.

Regardless where you choose to go, knock your Bachelor’s degree out while your sitting reserve, or sitting in hotel rooms. At the current rate of flow at PSA, you’re likely to be there 8-9 years before your turn to flow arrives. There’s no point handicapping your competitiveness elsewhere because you can flow to AA in 8-9 years.
I applied to PSA back in 2015 when I was at Air Wisconsin because they didn’t know what the future held. I was current and typed in the RJ and they turned me down. But they hired a pilot who was accused of a triple murder and did time in Ft. Leavenworth
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