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Old 03-27-2020, 09:31 AM
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What would it take for the union and PSA pilots to accept a limited number of potential furloughed AA former PSA flowbacks? All flow backs would be DECs of course and get their base of choice on the bottom of the captain list. Only former PSA flows could come back and the total number would have to get capped around 100-120. The PSA guys hired off the street at AA would not be eligible for flow back. Maybe you guys would accept in exchange for double flow when AA starts to hire again. All hypothetical considering AA probably won’t furlough. Understand it would be a 3-way Deal between PSA, PSA-ALPA and AA. Double flow sounds nice right?
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Old 03-27-2020, 09:54 AM
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PSA CA says Hell yes.
PSA FO says No way.

... with exceptions of course FO’s were running from forced UPG anyway. Lots of great stand-up guys went over via flow. It’d be good for PSA
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Old 03-27-2020, 09:56 AM
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How about no. You got hired at American. These guys got hired at PSA. Just asking to displace PSA guys to save you is selfishness, period.
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Old 03-27-2020, 10:16 AM
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What would it take for the union and PSA pilots to accept a limited number of potential furloughed AA former PSA flowbacks? All flow backs would be DECs of course and get their base of choice on the bottom of the captain list. Only former PSA flows could come back and the total number would have to get capped around 100-120. The PSA guys hired off the street at AA would not be eligible for flow back. Maybe you guys would accept in exchange for double flow when AA starts to hire again. All hypothetical considering AA probably won’t furlough. Understand it would be a 3-way Deal between PSA, PSA-ALPA and AA. Double flow sounds nice right?
Where is this coming from? And why is it even being discussed when every company is currently in survival mode anyway?
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Old 03-27-2020, 10:18 AM
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Where is this coming from? And why is it even being discussed when every company is currently in survival mode anyway?
This is called the bargaining phase in the stages of grief
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Old 03-27-2020, 10:36 AM
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The idea that PSA won’t be furloughing isn’t very likely. I don’t see how you’d ever sell flow-lough
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Old 03-27-2020, 10:36 AM
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Old 03-27-2020, 10:37 AM
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What would it take for the union and PSA pilots to accept a limited number of potential furloughed AA former PSA flowbacks? All flow backs would be DECs of course and get their base of choice on the bottom of the captain list. Only former PSA flows could come back and the total number would have to get capped around 100-120. The PSA guys hired off the street at AA would not be eligible for flow back. Maybe you guys would accept in exchange for double flow when AA starts to hire again. All hypothetical considering AA probably won’t furlough. Understand it would be a 3-way Deal between PSA, PSA-ALPA and AA. Double flow sounds nice right?

Hows about all of us lay off the internet for a while...
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Old 03-27-2020, 10:57 AM
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I have mixed opinions about this, but even if it were to happen... wouldn’t the flowbacks have to requal and go through initial training again? Even if that process started tomorrow it would be almost 3 months until they finished training and at that point I think we would be on the upswing and starting to hire again. That or we would only need them for 1-2 more months. Which, would make the whole flow back idea absolutely pointless.
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Old 03-27-2020, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by VerifyChecked View Post
How about no. You got hired at American. These guys got hired at PSA. Just asking to displace PSA guys to save you is selfishness, period.
^^^ this/

OP; you made the jump and now you take your chances. Want to flow back? Resign your current gig and become a new street hire again. Bottom of the list.
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